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I've also found a lot of this stuff is due to naysayers telling people that things can't be fixed (because really they don't want to bother). You need a strong
by IshKebab 1y ago
I've also found a lot of this stuff is due to naysayers telling people that things can't be fixed (because really they don't want to bother). You need a strong leader to say "no it can and we will".
- ww520 1y agoOr the incentive aligned.
- SkyPuncher 1y agoThis is really what it is.
- abullinan 1y agoIt takes a village. Also to be successful in tech it takes an asshole. No way around it. At some point all successful companies share an overly aggressive visionary. The entire company doesn’t need to be toxic, but the apex does. If you don’t like it, don’t climb the ladder.
- ttoinou 1y agoSurely there must be some counter examples. Collison brothers at Stripe ?
- stripe_away 1y agoI guess you never worked at Stripe.
- IshKebab 1y agoI don't think it requires being an arsehole. Just being firm. That doesn't require arseholery.
- elzbardico 1y agoPeople will call someone who doesn't bend to the status quo an asshole.
- eru 1y agoNo. Not necessarily. There's plenty of people described as 'quiet and polite, but firm' or some similar variations.
- qmr 1y agoWhat founders / CEOs can you name described by those qualities?
- eru 1y agoI'm not sure you need to restrict yourself to these. You can also look at eg political leaders. Lee Kuan Yew is one example that comes to mind immediately. Warren Buffett might be a good example from the world of business. (Your favourite search engine or chatbot is probably more than happy to give you a steady stream of other examples.)
- leoc 1y agoI don't know, maybe he wouldn't raise his voice, but I can't imagine it would be fun to be a subordinate of LKY at the moment he decided you were wasting his time.
- eru 1y agoThe original comment was: > People will call someone who doesn't bend to the status quo an asshole. That's very different from not suffering time wasters.
- abullinan 1y agoWarren Buffet is a very carefully crafted “aww shucks” persona. He’s spent megabucks inventing it and keeping it safe. And I lose the argument because I cannot find the article from a decade ago that really dug into it. Either SEO has vanished it or he has it removed.
- sixo 1y agoSkill issue. There are other ways to get those results, but being an asshole is the lowest-hanging, and is nearly free if the people around you don't have the self-respect to walk away.
- abullinan 1y agoI disagree. Point to a centibillion+ company that isn’t fronted by a toxic asshole.
- paradox460 1y agoNot just that, but the strong leader needs to ensure that it can be fixed. Yelling at a rank-and-file to unfuck some random system, then not giving them any time, resources, or tools to fix it is just being a dictatorial dickhead.