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It looks amazing for e-ink. You'd probably don't want this for video anyway, besides it's not even in color. I'm impressed that it works at all. For a lot of wo

It looks amazing for e-ink. You'd probably don't want this for video anyway, besides it's not even in color. I'm impressed that it works at all. For a lot of work though it could be amazing, depending on your environment. Say you'd want to pop outside in the nice weather to do some programming. You quickly find why that wasn't as glamorous as you expected. But if you had a laptop with such a screen I would expect it to work great.

clueless 1y ago
this is not the same technology as e-ink, hence why they call it e-paper
- alex-a-soto 1y ago
  It’s an electrophoretic display, in the category of e-paper, informally called e-ink, made by the company E Ink. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper#Electrophoretic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper#Electrophoret...
porridgeraisin 1y ago
What about syntax highlighting?
- 3abiton 1y ago
  That indeed would be my issue with it for programming.
- swinglock 1y ago
  I don't require it myself but that's a concern, it's nice to have. Maybe someone can build an editor that uses different fonts within one file instead of different colors. Could be something out there for color blind folks already, though seeing no colors at all is unusual. But e-ink has grayscales so you could at least make comments a bit lighter, I think I'd be happy with that.
  - balou23 1y ago
    There's plenty of options available. A coworker of mine used to print out code for reviews. You can use italic, bold and underline as alternative to colors. Grayscale might work nicely for eInk too - for laser printers just thin/regular/bold probably works better. Other fonts... I could see myself being distracted by changing fonts in a document, except maybe for comment blocks. But for those italic/thin seems to work well already. Tried to find the tool... it's GNU enscript. Syntax highlighting for several languages, outputs to postscript.
    - swinglock 1y ago
      I like your idea better.
    - alex-a-soto 1y ago
      I didn’t know about GNU Enscript, going to check it out. Thanks!
  - OJFord 1y ago
    I'd do 3 greys, from lightest to darkest: comments, syntactical cruft like braces, semicolons, certain keywords, etc., and then 'actual' code, variable names and so on. Much more variation than that with 256 colours is mostly just making it pretty rather than offering helpful distinction imo.
- dspillett 1y ago
  You have the option of a few greyscale levels, bold, pehaps italic, and depending on font maybe extra-bold and light. That should be enough for the essentials, though it will feel like a downgrade if you have got used to a richly colourful environment and rely on it for reasons other than liking it being pretty.
- camgunz 1y ago
  I built a colorscheme for Vim [0] that is close to monochrome when I was worried about blue light (I've since had kids and now this kind of worry doesn't rate at all), and I basically use bold and highlights (I hate underlining, italics, and squiggles, but I think you can do all that too in the GUI version). I found it surprisingly usable. [0]: https://github.com/camgunz/amber https://github.com/camgunz/amber
  - porridgeraisin 1y ago
    > in the GUI version or in the TUI version, in a terminal like Kitty. I want to try some monochrome UI, but that amber is definitely not my taste. Let me see if there is a "paper-like" theme, or maybe I can make one myself.
    - camgunz 1y ago
      I (re)built it w/ a little script I call roygvim [0] -- here's the source [1] [0]: https://github.com/camgunz/roygvim https://github.com/camgunz/roygvim [1]: https://pastebin.com/b0LRpjUC https://pastebin.com/b0LRpjUC
      - porridgeraisin 1y ago
        My attempt: https://images2.imgbox.com/16/79/Tz7rMe2c_o.png https://images2.imgbox.com/16/79/Tz7rMe2c_o.png colorscheme paper highlight Normal guibg=#f7f5f0 guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight CursorLine guibg=#f0efea gui=NONE highlight CursorColumn guibg=#f0efea gui=NONE highlight Comment guifg=#777777 gui=italic highlight Constant guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight String guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Character guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Number guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Boolean guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Float guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Identifier guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight Function guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Statement guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Conditional guifg=#000000 gui=bold,underline highlight Repeat guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Label guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Operator guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight Keyword guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight PreProc guifg=#333333 highlight Include guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Define guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Macro guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight PreCondit guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Type guifg=#000000 gui=bold,italic highlight StorageClass guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Structure guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Typedef guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Special guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight SpecialChar guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Tag guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Delimiter guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight SpecialComment guifg=#777777 gui=italic highlight Debug guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Underlined guifg=#000000 gui=underline highlight Error guifg=#000000 gui=bold,underline highlight Todo guifg=#000000 gui=bold,italic highlight Visual guibg=#d0d0d0 guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight IncSearch guibg=#d0d0d0 guifg=#000000 gui=NONE

clueless 1y ago

this is not the same technology as e-ink, hence why they call it e-paper

alex-a-soto 1y ago
It’s an electrophoretic display, in the category of e-paper, informally called e-ink, made by the company E Ink. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper#Electrophoretic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper#Electrophoret...

porridgeraisin 1y ago

What about syntax highlighting?

3abiton 1y ago
That indeed would be my issue with it for programming.
swinglock 1y ago
I don't require it myself but that's a concern, it's nice to have. Maybe someone can build an editor that uses different fonts within one file instead of different colors. Could be something out there for color blind folks already, though seeing no colors at all is unusual. But e-ink has grayscales so you could at least make comments a bit lighter, I think I'd be happy with that.
- balou23 1y ago
  There's plenty of options available. A coworker of mine used to print out code for reviews. You can use italic, bold and underline as alternative to colors. Grayscale might work nicely for eInk too - for laser printers just thin/regular/bold probably works better. Other fonts... I could see myself being distracted by changing fonts in a document, except maybe for comment blocks. But for those italic/thin seems to work well already. Tried to find the tool... it's GNU enscript. Syntax highlighting for several languages, outputs to postscript.
  - swinglock 1y ago
    I like your idea better.
  - alex-a-soto 1y ago
    I didn’t know about GNU Enscript, going to check it out. Thanks!
- OJFord 1y ago
  I'd do 3 greys, from lightest to darkest: comments, syntactical cruft like braces, semicolons, certain keywords, etc., and then 'actual' code, variable names and so on. Much more variation than that with 256 colours is mostly just making it pretty rather than offering helpful distinction imo.
dspillett 1y ago
You have the option of a few greyscale levels, bold, pehaps italic, and depending on font maybe extra-bold and light. That should be enough for the essentials, though it will feel like a downgrade if you have got used to a richly colourful environment and rely on it for reasons other than liking it being pretty.
camgunz 1y ago
I built a colorscheme for Vim [0] that is close to monochrome when I was worried about blue light (I've since had kids and now this kind of worry doesn't rate at all), and I basically use bold and highlights (I hate underlining, italics, and squiggles, but I think you can do all that too in the GUI version). I found it surprisingly usable. [0]: https://github.com/camgunz/amber https://github.com/camgunz/amber
- porridgeraisin 1y ago
  > in the GUI version or in the TUI version, in a terminal like Kitty. I want to try some monochrome UI, but that amber is definitely not my taste. Let me see if there is a "paper-like" theme, or maybe I can make one myself.
  - camgunz 1y ago
    I (re)built it w/ a little script I call roygvim [0] -- here's the source [1] [0]: https://github.com/camgunz/roygvim https://github.com/camgunz/roygvim [1]: https://pastebin.com/b0LRpjUC https://pastebin.com/b0LRpjUC
    - porridgeraisin 1y ago
      My attempt: https://images2.imgbox.com/16/79/Tz7rMe2c_o.png https://images2.imgbox.com/16/79/Tz7rMe2c_o.png colorscheme paper highlight Normal guibg=#f7f5f0 guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight CursorLine guibg=#f0efea gui=NONE highlight CursorColumn guibg=#f0efea gui=NONE highlight Comment guifg=#777777 gui=italic highlight Constant guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight String guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Character guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Number guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Boolean guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Float guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Identifier guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight Function guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Statement guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Conditional guifg=#000000 gui=bold,underline highlight Repeat guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Label guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Operator guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight Keyword guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight PreProc guifg=#333333 highlight Include guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Define guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Macro guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight PreCondit guifg=#333333 gui=underline highlight Type guifg=#000000 gui=bold,italic highlight StorageClass guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Structure guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Typedef guifg=#000000 gui=bold highlight Special guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight SpecialChar guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Tag guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Delimiter guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight SpecialComment guifg=#777777 gui=italic highlight Debug guifg=#333333 gui=italic highlight Underlined guifg=#000000 gui=underline highlight Error guifg=#000000 gui=bold,underline highlight Todo guifg=#000000 gui=bold,italic highlight Visual guibg=#d0d0d0 guifg=#000000 gui=NONE highlight IncSearch guibg=#d0d0d0 guifg=#000000 gui=NONE