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The grandparent was also wryly highlighting the crevasse between post-Nadella Microsoft's PR, which you seem to believe, and their actions. Despite "MS <3s Ope

The grandparent was also wryly highlighting the crevasse between post-Nadella Microsoft's PR, which you seem to believe, and their actions. Despite "MS <3s Open Source" they never changed, you're just referencing a very successful era of marketing. And poor Linux users are out here catching strays. Very "don't you say that about the $1T company!!!" of you to defend them, "fellow Linux user" (also very hi fellow kids..)

gmueckl 1y ago
Then you surely have a laundry list of examples from the last 10 years where MS showed the same anticompetitive nature that they had in the 90s.
- yencabulator 1y ago
  Yes, people keep bringing up VSCode all the time, but fanboys are gonna fanboy.
  - soraminazuki 1y ago
    And Windows, that one obscure product from Microsoft that people here keep forgetting about.
ivanmontillam 1y ago
I try not to drink the Kool-Aid either on Microsoft's side (again, they are not necessarily my cup of tea), but the prevalence of the people with the "Hey! Remember that Steve Ballmer called Linux a cancer? Micro$$$hit!!" attitude sucks my energy dry.
- fuzztester 1y ago
  who at microsoft said open source is unamerican https://www.google.com/search?q=who+at+microsoft+said+open+source+is+unamerican https://www.google.com/search?q=who+at+microsoft+said+open+s... one of the results: Weekly news wrapup: Microsoft claims Linux is un-American: https://www.linux.com/news/weekly-news-wrapup-microsoft-claims-linux-un-american/ https://www.linux.com/news/weekly-news-wrapup-microsoft-clai... from 2001. well, gosh, I feel sorry for those American Linux developers of that time. I guess they were unAmerican, according to Allchin. if they were of this time, i guess they would have been deported by ICE. sorry for the victim now ... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-48lNCrmqxA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-48lNCrmqxA
  - ivanmontillam 1y ago
    Well, for starters: Linux is of Finnish origin. Linus Torvalds might be a U.S. citizen today, but during the first years of Linux he was certainly not thinking U.S. values and that someday his biggest userbase would be there. > Weekly news wrapup: Microsoft claims Linux is un-American: Yeah, typical Ballmer-era.
    - abcd_f 1y ago
      > he was certainly not thinking U.S. values Damn. I wasn't sure if you were trolling above and now it's clear that you were.
      - fuzztester 1y ago
        yeah! jfc. what a pompous, fake hipster mentality he has. I looked him up, via his HN profile: here is his About me section, at the bottom of his blog's main page - https://www.ivanmontilla.com/ https://www.ivanmontilla.com/ : I found it so funny and hypocritical that I highlighted some of the sillier phrases below - in italics : ------------------------- About me Ivan Montilla I self-define as a challenger of the status quo. Usually, I question trends. Normalcy is to be avoided. Some of the greatest opportunities lie where no one else is looking. I’m more of a niche markets guy. My interests are ever-changing, but I’m currently interested in financial markets technology. I’m also passionate for software performance. I do develop some software, but not professionally. I’m more of a power user of programming languages. I see it as a craft, both engineering and some form of art. ---------------------------
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- fuzztester 1y ago
  if that's the case, you must not have had much energy to begin with. Kool-Aid and tea can do that to you :)

gmueckl 1y ago

Then you surely have a laundry list of examples from the last 10 years where MS showed the same anticompetitive nature that they had in the 90s.

yencabulator 1y ago
Yes, people keep bringing up VSCode all the time, but fanboys are gonna fanboy.
- soraminazuki 1y ago
  And Windows, that one obscure product from Microsoft that people here keep forgetting about.

ivanmontillam 1y ago

I try not to drink the Kool-Aid either on Microsoft's side (again, they are not necessarily my cup of tea), but the prevalence of the people with the "Hey! Remember that Steve Ballmer called Linux a cancer? Micro$$$hit!!" attitude sucks my energy dry.

fuzztester 1y ago
who at microsoft said open source is unamerican https://www.google.com/search?q=who+at+microsoft+said+open+source+is+unamerican https://www.google.com/search?q=who+at+microsoft+said+open+s... one of the results: Weekly news wrapup: Microsoft claims Linux is un-American: https://www.linux.com/news/weekly-news-wrapup-microsoft-claims-linux-un-american/ https://www.linux.com/news/weekly-news-wrapup-microsoft-clai... from 2001. well, gosh, I feel sorry for those American Linux developers of that time. I guess they were unAmerican, according to Allchin. if they were of this time, i guess they would have been deported by ICE. sorry for the victim now ... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-48lNCrmqxA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-48lNCrmqxA
- ivanmontillam 1y ago
  Well, for starters: Linux is of Finnish origin. Linus Torvalds might be a U.S. citizen today, but during the first years of Linux he was certainly not thinking U.S. values and that someday his biggest userbase would be there. > Weekly news wrapup: Microsoft claims Linux is un-American: Yeah, typical Ballmer-era.
  - abcd_f 1y ago
    > he was certainly not thinking U.S. values Damn. I wasn't sure if you were trolling above and now it's clear that you were.
    - fuzztester 1y ago
      yeah! jfc. what a pompous, fake hipster mentality he has. I looked him up, via his HN profile: here is his About me section, at the bottom of his blog's main page - https://www.ivanmontilla.com/ https://www.ivanmontilla.com/ : I found it so funny and hypocritical that I highlighted some of the sillier phrases below - in italics : ------------------------- About me Ivan Montilla I self-define as a challenger of the status quo. Usually, I question trends. Normalcy is to be avoided. Some of the greatest opportunities lie where no one else is looking. I’m more of a niche markets guy. My interests are ever-changing, but I’m currently interested in financial markets technology. I’m also passionate for software performance. I do develop some software, but not professionally. I’m more of a power user of programming languages. I see it as a craft, both engineering and some form of art. ---------------------------
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fuzztester 1y ago
if that's the case, you must not have had much energy to begin with. Kool-Aid and tea can do that to you :)