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Out of curiosity, is there a way we can request a mod to manually unflag this? I see comments in this thread have been killed, so I'm not sure why this is still

Out of curiosity, is there a way we can request a mod to manually unflag this? I see comments in this thread have been killed, so I'm not sure why this is still flagged 3 hours later when it seems clearly relevant to HN? A military deploying to the capital of the richest country on earth where most tech giants reside is important for tech.

Jtsummers 1y ago
Email them via the contact link at the bottom of the page. They're pretty responsive, though for political topics they're reluctant to unflag them because the discussions are often fruitless (just a bunch of people shouting at each other).
- tastyface 1y ago
  They will happily unflag tech-irrelevant fulff such as an article about Hulk Hogan dying. Whereas extensively researched political articles like this one? Mum: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44816165 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44816165
ath3nd 1y ago
It's flagged for the same reason that posts describing the genocide Israel is doing in Palestine get flagged: the absolute intolerance of those in power to any dissenting opinions.
- camgunz 1y ago
  I spend a fair amount of time flagging stuff in those threads that's outright anti-Semitic or propaganda, and if that goes on too long I just flag the whole post and move on. It's one thing to have an in-depth discussion about colonialism, the history of the surrounding Arab states and early Zionism, ongoing Israeli politics, the Jewish diaspora, etc. It's quite another to engage in a fruitless moral oneupsmanship (neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis will wake up suddenly and say "Oh, HN has decided we're to blame; I guess we'll call the whole thing off"), or to reckon not at all with the fact that the destruction of Israel (through boycott, invasion, or minority democratic status) leads to the murder of horrifying numbers of Israeli Jews. As with pretty much all war I'm disgusted by what Israel is doing. I don't see that as a reason to drum up anti-semitism or casually imply the destruction of Israel and the attendant murder of millions of people would be a net good. So, that's why I flag that stuff. I also think it's pretty absurd to think that HN censors opinions. I and others constantly criticize SV bigwigs like Marc Andreessen (can somebody ask ChatGPT how many goddamn 'e's are in his name, Jesus Christ) and Paul Graham, lots of tech-skeptic stuff gets posted here and makes it to the front page.
  - ath3nd 1y ago
    I am sorry you experience antisemitism, this bs should have disappeared long long long ago. > As with pretty much all war I'm disgusted by what Israel is doing We are too! The same way we decried the despicable genocidal actions Germany did on the Jewish population during WW2, we now decry the despicable genocidal actions of the state of Israel on the population of Palestine. > (neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis will wake up suddenly and say "Oh, HN has decided we're to blame; I guess we'll call the whole thing off" Only one side is actually doing genocide at the moment, and that's Israel. Israel should stop the genocide and either engage in a war without war crimes, or better yet, stop annexing foreign territories and stop the war altogether. I appreciate your "there are two sides to every conflict" point, but there is only one side currently shooting at civilians at aid sites, stopping food from reaching the civilian population, and killing journalists.
    - HDThoreaun 1y ago
      > stop annexing foreign territories Gaza is not a foreign territory. It is part of israel. Israel won it over the course of a series of wars that they won in the last century. Almost all of which were not started by the israelis. If the gazans wanted sovereignty they shouldnt have started and lost so many wars. Losing has consequences. > there is only one side currently shooting at civilians The only reason the gazans are not doing this is because they are utterly incompetent, they cant. I dont see how that gives them the moral high ground. As soon as they gain the ability to shoot israeli civilians they will begin to do so again. Both sides are led by truly despicable governments, no one has any amount of moral high ground in this conflict imo.
      - text0404 1y ago
        > The only reason the gazans are not doing this is because they are utterly incompetent, they cant. I dont see how that gives them the moral high ground. As soon as they gain the ability to shoot israeli civilians they will begin to do so again. using dehumanizing/racist language as a defense for war crimes unfortunately doesn't fly at The Hague.
- tomhow 1y ago
  We've had multiple threads about Gaza that have spent many hours on the front page in recent months, including two about two weeks ago. It's not viable for us to give front page time to every major development in that terrible situation, but we also think it's important for HN to not act as if it's not happening.
mdhb 1y ago
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- mring33621 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    By some of the top commenters no less. It's absolutely insane to me that people that have zero excuse not to be informed chose to willfully ignore the evidence in front of their own eyes just because the bullshit resonates with their fears.
  - goatlover 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - jacquesm 1y ago
      Some of them, anyway. But judging by the bulk of the comments here most people do not.
- ivape 1y ago
  The revolution will not be televised.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw
tomhow 1y ago
We've unflagged it now.
- jacquesm 1y ago
  Thank you.

Jtsummers 1y ago

Email them via the contact link at the bottom of the page. They're pretty responsive, though for political topics they're reluctant to unflag them because the discussions are often fruitless (just a bunch of people shouting at each other).

tastyface 1y ago
They will happily unflag tech-irrelevant fulff such as an article about Hulk Hogan dying. Whereas extensively researched political articles like this one? Mum: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44816165 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44816165

ath3nd 1y ago

It's flagged for the same reason that posts describing the genocide Israel is doing in Palestine get flagged: the absolute intolerance of those in power to any dissenting opinions.

camgunz 1y ago
I spend a fair amount of time flagging stuff in those threads that's outright anti-Semitic or propaganda, and if that goes on too long I just flag the whole post and move on. It's one thing to have an in-depth discussion about colonialism, the history of the surrounding Arab states and early Zionism, ongoing Israeli politics, the Jewish diaspora, etc. It's quite another to engage in a fruitless moral oneupsmanship (neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis will wake up suddenly and say "Oh, HN has decided we're to blame; I guess we'll call the whole thing off"), or to reckon not at all with the fact that the destruction of Israel (through boycott, invasion, or minority democratic status) leads to the murder of horrifying numbers of Israeli Jews. As with pretty much all war I'm disgusted by what Israel is doing. I don't see that as a reason to drum up anti-semitism or casually imply the destruction of Israel and the attendant murder of millions of people would be a net good. So, that's why I flag that stuff. I also think it's pretty absurd to think that HN censors opinions. I and others constantly criticize SV bigwigs like Marc Andreessen (can somebody ask ChatGPT how many goddamn 'e's are in his name, Jesus Christ) and Paul Graham, lots of tech-skeptic stuff gets posted here and makes it to the front page.
- ath3nd 1y ago
  I am sorry you experience antisemitism, this bs should have disappeared long long long ago. > As with pretty much all war I'm disgusted by what Israel is doing We are too! The same way we decried the despicable genocidal actions Germany did on the Jewish population during WW2, we now decry the despicable genocidal actions of the state of Israel on the population of Palestine. > (neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis will wake up suddenly and say "Oh, HN has decided we're to blame; I guess we'll call the whole thing off" Only one side is actually doing genocide at the moment, and that's Israel. Israel should stop the genocide and either engage in a war without war crimes, or better yet, stop annexing foreign territories and stop the war altogether. I appreciate your "there are two sides to every conflict" point, but there is only one side currently shooting at civilians at aid sites, stopping food from reaching the civilian population, and killing journalists.
  - HDThoreaun 1y ago
    > stop annexing foreign territories Gaza is not a foreign territory. It is part of israel. Israel won it over the course of a series of wars that they won in the last century. Almost all of which were not started by the israelis. If the gazans wanted sovereignty they shouldnt have started and lost so many wars. Losing has consequences. > there is only one side currently shooting at civilians The only reason the gazans are not doing this is because they are utterly incompetent, they cant. I dont see how that gives them the moral high ground. As soon as they gain the ability to shoot israeli civilians they will begin to do so again. Both sides are led by truly despicable governments, no one has any amount of moral high ground in this conflict imo.
    - text0404 1y ago
      > The only reason the gazans are not doing this is because they are utterly incompetent, they cant. I dont see how that gives them the moral high ground. As soon as they gain the ability to shoot israeli civilians they will begin to do so again. using dehumanizing/racist language as a defense for war crimes unfortunately doesn't fly at The Hague.
tomhow 1y ago
We've had multiple threads about Gaza that have spent many hours on the front page in recent months, including two about two weeks ago. It's not viable for us to give front page time to every major development in that terrible situation, but we also think it's important for HN to not act as if it's not happening.

mdhb 1y ago

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mring33621 1y ago
[flagged]
- jacquesm 1y ago
  By some of the top commenters no less. It's absolutely insane to me that people that have zero excuse not to be informed chose to willfully ignore the evidence in front of their own eyes just because the bullshit resonates with their fears.
- goatlover 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    Some of them, anyway. But judging by the bulk of the comments here most people do not.
ivape 1y ago
The revolution will not be televised.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw

tomhow 1y ago

We've unflagged it now.

jacquesm 1y ago
Thank you.