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Right this is what I am saying. And I think that we should be outrageously skeptical of such people and oppose them with fervor. In the 70s people were saying t

Right this is what I am saying. And I think that we should be outrageously skeptical of such people and oppose them with fervor. In the 70s people were saying that we needed to commit brutal oppression against a large portion of the world based on geography in order to prevent future catastrophe. These people were wrong in every possible dimension and has we listened to them we would have committed a world-historic evil. Similarly, we are starting to see people say that we need to commit brutal oppression against a large portion of the world (this time based on gender) in order to prevent future catastrophe. I suspect that these people will be wrong in every possible dimension and that if we listen to them that we will be committing a world-historic evil.

lurk2 1y ago
> In the 70s people were saying that we needed to commit brutal oppression against a large portion of the world based on geography in order to prevent future catastrophe. What is this referring to?
- pearlsontheroad 1y ago
  In the 70s, under IMF guidance, several governments of 3rd world countries implemented policies of mass sterilization.
- UncleMeat 1y ago
  Erlich (and others) said that we needed to do the following * programs of mass sterilization in the third world * a "triage" program where we partition the third world into "savable" and "unsavable" zones, block all movement between these zones, and expel the unsavable zones from our world order such that they will simply all starve to death.
  - api 1y ago
    It was all very very racist. I kinda think this answers the question as to why these ideas get a pass: they offer a way to be racist and advocate racist eugenics policies without admitting you are racist, even to yourself. I see racism in the population collapse panic too unfortunately, at least in the popular discourse around it. Overpopulation was always about too many of the “wrong” people while underpopulation is about not enough of the “right” people.
    - selimthegrim 1y ago
      Paging rayiner: I believe his dad was involved in population planning for the Ford Foundation in BD.

lurk2 1y ago

> In the 70s people were saying that we needed to commit brutal oppression against a large portion of the world based on geography in order to prevent future catastrophe. What is this referring to?

pearlsontheroad 1y ago
In the 70s, under IMF guidance, several governments of 3rd world countries implemented policies of mass sterilization.
UncleMeat 1y ago
Erlich (and others) said that we needed to do the following * programs of mass sterilization in the third world * a "triage" program where we partition the third world into "savable" and "unsavable" zones, block all movement between these zones, and expel the unsavable zones from our world order such that they will simply all starve to death.
- api 1y ago
  It was all very very racist. I kinda think this answers the question as to why these ideas get a pass: they offer a way to be racist and advocate racist eugenics policies without admitting you are racist, even to yourself. I see racism in the population collapse panic too unfortunately, at least in the popular discourse around it. Overpopulation was always about too many of the “wrong” people while underpopulation is about not enough of the “right” people.
  - selimthegrim 1y ago
    Paging rayiner: I believe his dad was involved in population planning for the Ford Foundation in BD.