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Wait is this a Lovable clone that is actually called open-lovable? That seems bold
by cal85 1y ago
Wait is this a Lovable clone that is actually called open-lovable? That seems bold
- dudeinjapan 1y agoIm waiting for open-open-ai
- guerrilla 1y agoEveryone's waiting for open-open-ai.
- bravesoul2 1y agoYou're in luck! https://openai.com/open-models/ https://openai.com/open-models/
- guerrilla 1y agoHardly.
- merelysounds 1y agoWith “open” being such a common word, I wonder if that one might actually get a pass. And if not, then maybe open-squared-ai.
- xtajv 1y agoIt seems like trademark infringement.
- croes 1y agoCan’t find a Loveable trademark for the app AI
- yencabulator 1y agoWell, for starters, it's not spelled with that first e. https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=99194755&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=99194755&caseSearchType=U...
- cal85 1y agoalso trademark registration is not remotely relevant here
- yencabulator 1y agoWhat do you mean? It's literally the legal mechanism by which Lovable Labs Incorporated can prevent this guy from calling his thing open-lovable.
- SonOfLilit 1y agoRegistering your trademark makes enforcement easier, but there's a reason both TM and R exist - unregistered trademarks still hold power.
- yencabulator 1y agoSure. But for a company with a lot of money at stake, filing a trademark application isn't a huge bar and makes winning the legal case a lot easier.
- cal85 1y agonope, fire your lawyer. you get a common law trademark by trading under a name. no need to register it. TM registration is just to streamline big corps chasing after lots of small abusers in a wackamole way, that’s all. if the abuse in question is as egregious as “I used their product name, barely modified, to market my own thing, which is not just in the same general market but a literal clone of their product” then a judge is not going to say “Ah but I see they didn’t send in a form to register their trademark, so yeah carry on with blatantly stealing their work lol”
- conradev 1y agoAs long as it’s not misleading: https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-policies/github-trademark-policy#what-is-a-github-trademark-policy-violation https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-polic... I am reminded of OpenNext (https://opennext.js.org/ https://opennext.js.org/) even though Vercel has a Next.js trademark.
- cal85 1y agocompliance with a github policy isn't really the issue lol
- rbren 1y agoHaving started OpenDevin (now OpenHands [1]) I can say it's definitely worth renaming. It's very limiting attaching your branding to someone else's [1] https://github.com/All-Hands-AI/OpenHands https://github.com/All-Hands-AI/OpenHands
- echelon 1y agoIt gets you some quick attention. The people that need to notice will follow.
- swyx 1y agoidk, do you think you would have gotten the start you did NOT being called opendevin? (hi btw! see GP's talk on OpenHands here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_hhkJtlbSs&t=4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_hhkJtlbSs&t=4s)
- rbren 1y agoHah it definitely gave us an early boost!
- tough 1y agomaybe the best optimal strategy is leech into the brand while you're unknown, and switch to your own once you make it. A bit sleazy but it works eh Can't fight marketing and human psychology
- swyx 1y agoimitation = sincere flattery etc
- tough 1y agoyes that's the benevolent take,but in a market for attention, it feels like a bit of a vampire attack to a brand to spun off OpenBrand. seems some what of a template now, OpenCut was recently on HN because some chinese company already owns their trademark, which is a pun/open version of CapCut, so things are getting a bit hairy at least, lol
- Uehreka 1y agoIt feels like a common thing in the AI space (moreso than other OSS spaces). People don’t get how trademarks work and that you can’t just name your project after something that’s already popular. I think some people think it’s a clever growth hack.
- toddmorey 1y agoIt's not really an "open lovable". I mean, there is of course a NextJS repo as part of it, but you need to bring your own API keys to an AI provider, as well as e2b.dev (sandbox, required) as well as firecrawl.dev (web scraping, oddly required). It's the web scraping more than anything that makes me the least enthusiastic. I get that's the core of their business, but packaged this way, it's much less a loveable-style "build your vision" and more a "quickly copy another site". Just serving as a copy machine is the least interesting use of all this insane compute.