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He just sounds bitter with a weird grudge against Altman Gpt5 was an incremental improvement. That’s fine. Was hyped hard but what did you expect? It’s part of

by Havoc 1y ago

He just sounds bitter with a weird grudge against Altman Gpt5 was an incremental improvement. That’s fine. Was hyped hard but what did you expect? It’s part of the game

Analemma_ 1y ago
I expect them not to lie? If it's worth hyping hard, hype it hard. If it's an incremental improvement, don't. It makes me crazy that this kind of institutionalized lying is so normal in the Valley that we get comments like yours shaming people for not understanding that lies are the default baseline. Can't we expect better? This culture is what gives us shit like Theranos, where we all pretend to be shocked even though any outside analysis could see it was an inevitable outcome.
- blackqueeriroh 1y ago
  “In the valley” Please check out claims made by supplements, which are unregulated by the FDA. You’ll find institutionalized lying there, as well. Any claim that can be made without being held up to false advertising will be made.
  - mcswell 1y ago
    Maybe that's a good term to use for GPT-5: it's a supplement.
  - Analemma_ 1y ago
    Is that supposed to be exonerative? "Well, we're no worse than snakeoil-selling medical frauds"? I was hoping, apparently in vain, we could aspire to better than that.
margalabargala 1y ago
> Was hyped hard but what did you expect? It’s part of the game That lying is common, does not mean one cannot criticize an entity for lying.
AlexandrB 1y ago
> It’s part of the game It should get you sent to jail. I've had enough of empty promises. How much capital is misallocated because it's chasing this bullshit?
- vessenes 1y ago
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jdefr89 1y ago
That’s exactly the problem the author has. Lying and hype have replaced genuine innovation. It’s sad that lying and pushing nonsense is “part of the game” because it shouldn’t be. The game is only of benefit to a handful of people like Altman, not the humanity or to the field in general. I am sick of it as well… Tech has become grifter central and everyone is high on their own fucking supply…
ModernMech 1y ago
Hype is one thing, but the chasm between "we have internal AGI" and what they delivered feels more like a grift.
orwin 1y ago
It's not? Could we expect people posing as scientists to show a modicum of rigor and honesty? I know tech bros are only posing (except maybe Bezos), but still, try harder? Altman is making me sympathize with Musk.

by Havoc 1y ago

He just sounds bitter with a weird grudge against Altman Gpt5 was an incremental improvement. That’s fine. Was hyped hard but what did you expect? It’s part of the game

Analemma_ 1y ago

I expect them not to lie? If it's worth hyping hard, hype it hard. If it's an incremental improvement, don't. It makes me crazy that this kind of institutionalized lying is so normal in the Valley that we get comments like yours shaming people for not understanding that lies are the default baseline. Can't we expect better? This culture is what gives us shit like Theranos, where we all pretend to be shocked even though any outside analysis could see it was an inevitable outcome.

blackqueeriroh 1y ago
“In the valley” Please check out claims made by supplements, which are unregulated by the FDA. You’ll find institutionalized lying there, as well. Any claim that can be made without being held up to false advertising will be made.
- mcswell 1y ago
  Maybe that's a good term to use for GPT-5: it's a supplement.
- Analemma_ 1y ago
  Is that supposed to be exonerative? "Well, we're no worse than snakeoil-selling medical frauds"? I was hoping, apparently in vain, we could aspire to better than that.

margalabargala 1y ago

> Was hyped hard but what did you expect? It’s part of the game That lying is common, does not mean one cannot criticize an entity for lying.

AlexandrB 1y ago

> It’s part of the game It should get you sent to jail. I've had enough of empty promises. How much capital is misallocated because it's chasing this bullshit?

vessenes 1y ago
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jdefr89 1y ago

That’s exactly the problem the author has. Lying and hype have replaced genuine innovation. It’s sad that lying and pushing nonsense is “part of the game” because it shouldn’t be. The game is only of benefit to a handful of people like Altman, not the humanity or to the field in general. I am sick of it as well… Tech has become grifter central and everyone is high on their own fucking supply…

ModernMech 1y ago

Hype is one thing, but the chasm between "we have internal AGI" and what they delivered feels more like a grift.

orwin 1y ago

It's not? Could we expect people posing as scientists to show a modicum of rigor and honesty? I know tech bros are only posing (except maybe Bezos), but still, try harder? Altman is making me sympathize with Musk.