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If European leadership has even half a brain cell this could be the catalyst for enormous growth in European science. But they’d need to act fast.
by CalRobert 1y ago
If European leadership has even half a brain cell this could be the catalyst for enormous growth in European science. But they’d need to act fast.
- nixass 1y agoNot until decision makers in Germany exchange ideas through fax machines first
- jimt1234 1y agoChina enters the chat.
- CalRobert 1y agoTrue, they won’t pay PhD’s €28,000 a year either.
- seanmcdirmid 1y agoChina is a pretty good place to be a scientists in certain fields. The pay is very competitive.
- CalRobert 1y agoYeah, I think what’s concerning is that it wasn’t obvious I meant 28k is obscenely low.
- v5v3 1y agoThen why are all the Chinese origin AI Devs working in USA?
- i34ubt4q2 1y ago[flagged]
- CalRobert 1y agoBecause you can make insane amounts of money?
- v5v3 1y agoDeepSeek and Qwen would pay as much wouldn't they? With the blessings of the state as AI is strategic
- seanmcdirmid 1y agoYou only see the ones working in the USA and not the ones working in China. The USA still pays better than China, and has more stomach for immigration (for now…Trump is working on making that worse), but when I was working in Beijing a lot of engineers from Japan, Korea, Taiwan, were there specifically for the higher pay.
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- nikanj 1y agoEU will not act on this unless the bill also includes provisions to support hobby horse manufacturing in eastern romania
- random3 1y agoYou seem to be frustrated about Romania (which has an east but not a formal eastern region designation as in Eastern Europe - are you conflating the two?) - but can you elaborate on your frustration?
- nikanj 1y agoEU never manages to act under reasonable timelines, because every bill is an opportunity for some pork on the side.
- random3 1y agoperhaps you're not familiar with (budget) Earmarks (e.g. in the US Congress)— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earmark_(politics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earmark_(politics)
- layer8 1y agoThey have already been acting: https://www.daad-brussels.eu/en/2025/05/26/choose-europe-a-new-eu-initiative-to-attract-global-scientific-talents/ https://www.daad-brussels.eu/en/2025/05/26/choose-europe-a-n... https://euraxess.ec.europa.eu/jobs#european-funding-initiatives-new https://euraxess.ec.europa.eu/jobs#european-funding-initiati...
- Yizahi 1y agoIt is easier for politicians to do nothing, safer and ensures future election win. If someone would say anything serious about inviting those scientists, then his opponents would immediately capitalize on this by shouting from every paid tiktok shill, how he is taking European's jobs and inviting bad immigrants.
- remify 1y agoThe EU don't act fast. It act slow and steady, it's not perfect but it sure is better then whatever is happnening the other side of the Atlantic.