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I'm not really convinced, the benchmark blunder was really strange but the demos were quite underwhelming, and it appears this was reflected by a huge market co
by AgentMatrixAI 1y ago
I'm not really convinced, the benchmark blunder was really strange but the demos were quite underwhelming, and it appears this was reflected by a huge market correction in the betting markets as to who will have the best AI by end of the year.
What excites me now is that Gemini 3.0 or some answer from Google is coming soon and that will be the one I will actually end up using. It seems like the last mover in the LLM race is more advantageous.
- m3kw9 1y agoGpt5 high reasoning is a big step up from o3
- echelon 1y agoI really don't want the already trillion dollar mega monopoly to own the world.
- blitzar 1y agoI would rather the already trillion dollar mega monopoly own the world than "Open"Ai
- roxolotl 1y agoYea maybe it’s naive but I’ve started learning towards preferring the devil I know. It also helps that Gemini is great.
- bagacrap 1y agoPlus it's the mega monopoly that is already being scrutinized by the government. Every tech company seems to start out with too much credibility that it has to whittle down little by little before we really hold them accountable.
- echelon 1y agoAre we forgetting that they're getting more evil, not less? They just removed ManifestV2.
- roxolotl 1y agoYea we’re in Silicon Valley’s Lex Luthor era. World Coin is just really next level though compared to most Google things. Sama has kinda always been going for the Lex Luthor vibe.
- echelon 1y agoGrowing up in a Southern Baptist household where televangelists preached the end of the world every day at 4 PM, World Coin has some serious Antichrist and Revelation vibes. I'll give you that point.
- surajrmal 1y agoIf you think manifest v2 is related to being more evil you have to rethink your sense of ethics. Companies of that size regularly engage in business that results in the deaths of many innocent people. Overall Google does quite well by many metrics compared to its peers.
- illiac786 1y agoYes, I would only prefer Gemini because google is under scrutiny, not because I think I know alphabet better than openAI. I think it’s a changing beast and no one can “know” it, it’s an illusion created by the brand, underneath it, it’s different every day.
- blitzar 1y agoGoogle is multiple orders of magnitute closer to being 'owned by the people' than a privately held for profit charity.
- joshmlewis 1y agoI am convinced. I've been giving it tasks the past couple hours that Opus 4.1 was failing on and it not only did them but cleaned up the mess Opus made. It's the real deal.
- diego_sandoval 1y agoOn that same vein, I had just tried Opus 4.1 yesterday, and it succesfully completed tasks that Sonnet 4 and Opus 4 failed at.
- joshmlewis 1y agoWhen it came out on Tuesday I wanted to throw my laptop out of the window. I don't know what happened but results were total garbage earlier this week. It got better the past couple days but so far with gpt-5 being able to solve problems without as much correction I'm going to use it more.
- alfalfasprout 1y agoInteresting, I've had the complete opposite experience. Opus 4.1 feels like a generational improvement compared to GPT-5.
- joshmlewis 1y agoIt is funny how it can be like this sometimes. I think a lot depends on coding styles, languages, prompting, etc.
- energy123 1y agoAnd it's almost 10x cheaper via flex, and in #1 position on lmarena. It's not even close.
- someuser54541 1y agoWhich betting markets were you referring to and where can they be viewed?
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- zamadatix 1y agoPolymarket has a whole AI category https://polymarket.com/search/ai?_sort=volume https://polymarket.com/search/ai?_sort=volume of markets.
- rendang 1y agoOne that comes to mind is https://polymarket.com/event/which-company-has-best-ai-model-end-of-august?tid=1754605403433 https://polymarket.com/event/which-company-has-best-ai-model...
- Buttons840 1y agoPolymarket betters are not impressed. Based upon the market odds, OpenAI had a 35% chance to have the best model (at year end), but those odds have dropped to 18% today. (I'm mostly making this comment to document what happened for the history books.) https://polymarket.com/event/which-company-has-best-ai-model-end-of-2025 https://polymarket.com/event/which-company-has-best-ai-model...
- roflyear 1y agoThe Musk effect is pretty crazy. Or is there another explanation for why x can compete with Google?
- Davidzheng 1y agoThey have a lot of compute already and Grok 4 was pretty strong?
- whimsicalism 1y agothey’ve managed to acquire compute remarkably quickly and i’m no Musk lover
- deltaburnt 1y agoThinking more cynically: political corruption and connections I'm guessing? Just a couple months ago Musk was treating the US government like his personal playground.
- ENGNR 1y agoElon's Y Combinator interview was pretty good. He seemed more in his element back amongst the hacker crowd (rather than dirty politics), and seemed to be doing hackery things at X, like renting generators and mobile cooling vans and just putting them the car park outside a warehouse to train Grok, since there were no data centres available and he was told it would take 2 years to set it all up properly. I think he's just good at attracting good talent, and letting them focus on the right things to move fast initially, while cutting the supporting infra down to zero until it's needed.
- boomfunky 1y agoThe real last mover is Apple, because boy are they not moving.
- manmal 1y agoAs an iOS dev, I really hope they acquire Anthropic before it’s too expensive.
- amelius 1y agoAs a Linux developer, I hope they do not.
- BoiledCabbage 1y agoWow would that be horrible
- manmal 1y agoHow so? This is not scarce technology. Claude Code has a few months on the other tools, tops.
- retinaros 1y agoThe demos were awful. It felt like watching sloppy vibe coded css UIs