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No shot. LLMs are simple text predictors and they are too stupid to get us to real AGI. To achieve AGI, we will need to be capable of high fidelity whole brain
by RS-232 1y ago
No shot. LLMs are simple text predictors and they are too stupid to get us to real AGI.
To achieve AGI, we will need to be capable of high fidelity whole brain simulations that model the brain's entire physical, chemical, and biological behavior. We won't have that kind of computational power until quantum computers are mature.
- evantbyrne 1y agoIt will be interesting to see if humans can manage to bioengineer human-level general intelligence into another species before computers.
- machiaweliczny 1y ago[flagged]
- bopbopbop7 1y ago“some twist” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement.
- AppleBananaPie 1y agoCS will define, design and implement human level intelligence before neuroscience has done even the first. That's what I hear when people say stuff like this anyway. Similar to CS folks throwing around physics 'theories'
- nawgz 1y agoI don't really see any relationship between being able to model/simulate the brain and being able to exceed the brain in intelligence, can you explain more about that? Simulations sound like more of a computational and analytic problem with regards to having an accurate model. Maybe your point is that until we understand our own intelligence, which would be reflected in such a simulation, it would be difficult to improve upon it.
- brookst 1y agoAre you saying that only (human?) biological brains can be GI, and that whatever intelligence is, it would emerge from a pure physics-based simulation? Both of those seem questionable, multiplying them together seems highly unlikely.
- jplusequalt 1y agoAre you arguing that intelligence is not physical? Could you name a single thing in existence that fundamentally cannot be linked to physics?
- BoiledCabbage 1y agoI think the argument is simpler than that. I have a PC, if I wanted to emulate an old Nintendo system well enough to play I dont have to emulate from the physics upwards. Even though every NES in existence is a physical system, you don't physical level simulation to create and have a playable NES system via emulation.
- jplusequalt 1y agoYou have no proof that emulating a brain is on the same level of complexity of emulating a gaming console. Tech bro reductionism is a plague.
- aaronbaugher 1y agoI'll be borrowing "tech bro reductionism." That's the perfect term for something that's a scourge these days.
- catigula 1y agoYes, consciousness is not explained by known physics. This is a trivial question to answer.
- jplusequalt 1y ago
- 93po 1y agoin what way are human brains also not just predictors? our neural pathways are built and reinforced as we have repeated exposure to inputs through any of our senses. our brains are expert pattern-followers, to the point that is happens even when we strongly don't want to (in the case of PTSD, for example, or people who struggle with impulse control and executive functioning). whats the next sentence i'm going to type? is not just based on the millions of sentences ive typed before and read before? even the premise of me playing devils advocate here, that's a pattern i've learned over my entire life too. your argument also falls apart a bit when we see emergent behavior, which has definitely happened
- pinoy420 1y ago[dead]
- JamesBarney 1y agoWhen we're being hunted down by nano-bots some of the last few survivors will still be surprised that a simple text predictor could do so much.
- OhioMan2943 1y agoHow do you suggest I survive being hunted down by nanobots? It's part of my 10 year plan and I'd appreciate any tips.
- _def 1y agoMicroscopic markdown tattoos for prompt injection
- pinoy420 1y ago[dead]