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Flat bread topped with some sort of condements is expected to have independently discovered basically everywhere where they had bread in some incarnation. The
by tossandthrow 1y ago
Flat bread topped with some sort of condements is expected to have independently discovered basically everywhere where they had bread in some incarnation.
The Italians really did their marketing well to get the attribution
- bavent 1y agoQuesadilla? Pizza. Taco? Folded pizza. Calzone - taco, therefore folded pizza. Toast with jam? Sweet pizza. Shit on a shingle? Military pizza.
- pfcd 1y agoAny food without bread? Pizza without bread. Pizza without bread? Pizza without bread. Pizza? Pizza. Pizza with pizza? Pizza++.
- deathanatos 1y agoPizza is toast, unless it's deep dish then it's quiche: https://cuberule.com/ https://cuberule.com/ A quesadilla is a sandwich, though.
- bavent 1y agoA sandwich is two pizzas kissing.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y agoThe next step is to create pizzarule.com with an Apple marketing-inspired design explaining how all food is some derivative of pizza.
- Loughla 1y agoAll food evolves into pizza given enough time, or something like that.
- zdragnar 1y agoI think the cube rule should really be amended such that toast is actually "open-faced sandwich". Toast is just bread. Toast with toppings, such as pizza, is actually an open-faced sandwich. It might be casual heresy but it is right.
- Dylan16807 1y agoThat's a perfectly good synonym, but god no don't make one category be "X" and another category be "A B X". That will cause nothing but confusion.
- xarope 1y agoI ordered a bruschetta in Nice (France), and got something that looked like a mini pizza. Granted, Nice is next door'ish to Italy
- LambdaComplex 1y ago>Pizza++ Pizza with classes?
- ArekDymalski 1y agoOr Pizza in notepad.
- karmakurtisaani 1y agoPizza with way too many toppings. Some of them toxic.
- insane_dreamer 1y agoPizza with spices? Pizza#
- afandian 1y agoBy coincidence I heard an interview on Radio 4 today. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002gqz2 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002gqz2 41:00 Approx transcript: > by the 1970s Italy had left its peasant origins behind it had become an industrial consumerist, democracy, and at that point, people start to get nostalgic, and they make the past simple for themselves by turning it into recipes, turning into simple forms. And that has become actually, and this is another novelty, very politicised in recent years. The current government, which of all the various right wing parties have been in power since 1994, is the one that most is most proud of its sort of fascist DNA, if I feel like, it's linked to historical links to Mussolini's fascist Party. They've really wedded themselves to this idea, this food nostalgia, this idea of defending Italian culture against contamination from abroad or wherever it might be.
- fsckboy 1y agopizza got bigger (than in Italy) first in America, and that started to happen well before the actual Fascists. So, no, pizza standards are not a nostalgic defense against contamination. French winemakers started defending their region names as trademarks in the middle of the last century (picked up steam in 1960s to 1970s) and cheese followed, and the rest of the Europe too. That's where the joke "real Existentialism must come from France, otherwise you just have sparkling anxiety" comes from. As one rather benign example, Hungary and Slovakia asserted rights to the name of the wine Tokaji/Tokai and in 2007 Friuli Italy had to stop using that name for their wine, a name they had been using for hundreds of years (though the grape is still called Tokai in Italy). In Hungary, the measure of quality/sweetness of the wine (it's a dessert wine) is called Puttonyos. The Italians now call their wine Friulano (not a dessert wine in particular); I want the Italians to start measuring their quality in Putanas just to give the finger to Hungary.
- afandian 1y agoI know nothing of this field. Just commenting as the interview came up today. But surely ideas about nationalism and purity can arise at any time? IIRC the interview was about pasta recipes, and about cultural rather than DOP purity.
- fsckboy 1y agothe italians have plenty of flat breads with condiments (try foccacia), and they are not pizza. those italians don't say "hey, we invented that too", nor should anybody else. we all agree what pizza means at least till the point we need to duke it out over pineapple (which is not pizza) i'm reminded of an old Lake Wobegon piece about Minnesota tacos (pronounced to rhyme with tack-o). they're made with folded over white bread and with your flannel sleeves rolled up because the juice will run down your arms
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- barnabyjones 1y agoThat's true but most of them are unleavened, the yeast plus the fast cook time is I think what makes pizza unique, more than the cheese which is present in other variations.
- bapak 1y agoPoems are just stack of words, aren't they.
- defrost 1y agomore of sack, stacks are sooo ordered. shuffle emily poem dickinson invariant are.
- thefz 1y agoThe difference is in fact in the tiny details between pizza and flatbread
- tossandthrow 1y agoLike there is a tiiiiny difference between a flatbread and a flat bread.