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> 400,000 context window > 128,000 max output tokens > Input $1.25 > Output $10.00 Source: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-5 https://platform.op
by Topfi 1y ago
> 400,000 context window
> 128,000 max output tokens
> Input $1.25
> Output $10.00
Source: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-5 https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-5
If this performs well in independent needle-in-haystack and adherence evaluations, this pricing with this context window alone would make GPT-5 extremely competitive with Gemini 2.5 Pro and Claude Opus 4.1, even if the output isn't a significant improvement over o3. If the output quality ends up on-par or better than the two major competitors, that'd be truly a massive leap forward for OpenAI, mini and nano maybe even more so.
- hrpnk 1y agoInteresting that gpt-5 has Oct 01, 2024 as knowledge cut-off while gpt-5-mini/nano it's May 31, 2024. gpt-4.1 family had 1M/32k input/output tokens. Pricing-wise, it's 37% cheaper input tokens, but 25% more expensive on output tokens. Only nano is 50% cheaper on input and unchanged on output.
- iammrpayments 1y agoYou also have to count the cost of having to verify your identity to use the API
- jjani 1y agoIt's only a video face scan and your legal ID to SamA, what could possibly go wrong
- SequoiaHope 1y agoOh they haven’t integrated the retinal scan tech yet eh?
- electric_muse 1y agoWait, is this real?
- ryanscio 1y agoYes, [1] though a bit vague given "Some organizations may already have access to these models and capabilities without having to go through the Verification process." I never verified but have access to all models including image gen, for example. [1] https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organization-verification https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio... [2] https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10362446-api-reasoning-model-availability-by-usage-tier https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10362446-api-reasoning-m...
- AyyEye 1y agoLet's not forget that SamA's other business venture is creating the World's largest biometric database. So it's all for sale the moment the VC money stops keeping that unprofitable company with overpaid engineers afloat.
- Topfi 1y agoOpenRouter (and potentially Azure in the near future) are options if verifying for enterprise API use is too hard to stomach.
- rgbrenner 1y agoopenrouter requires an openai api key.
- Topfi 1y agoWhere did you get that from? I am currently using GPT-5 via OpenRouter and never added an OpenAI key to my account there. Same for any previous OpenAI model. BYOK is an option, not a necessity.
- joshmlewis 1y agoYou had to use your own key for o3 at least. > Note that BYOK is required for this model. Set up here: https://openrouter.ai/settings/integrations https://openrouter.ai/settings/integrations https://openrouter.ai/api/v1/models https://openrouter.ai/api/v1/models
- Topfi 1y ago> {"id":"openai/gpt-5-chat","canonical_slug":"openai/gpt-5-chat-2025-08-07","hugging_face_id":"","name":"OpenAI: GPT-5 Chat","created":1754587837,"description":"GPT-5 Chat is designed for advanced, natural, multimodal, and context-aware conversations for enterprise applications.","context_length":400000,"architecture":{"modality":"text+image->text","input_modalities":["file","image","text"],"output_modalities":["text"],"tokenizer":"GPT","instruct_type":null},"pricing":{"prompt":"0.00000125","completion":"0.00001","request":"0","image":"0","audio":"0","web_search":"0","internal_reasoning":"0","input_cache_read":"0.000000125"},"top_provider":{"context_length":400000,"max_completion_tokens":128000,"is_moderated":true},"per_request_limits":null,"supported_parameters":["max_tokens","response_format","seed","structured_outputs"]}, If you look at the JSON you linked, it does not enforce BYOK for openai/gpt-5-chat, nor for openai/gpt-5-mini or openai/gpt-5-nano.
- iJohnDoe 1y agoTo clarify, you need to verify identity to use the GPT-5 API? I understand for image generation, but why for text generation?
- ryanmcbride 1y agoBecause they want to contribute to the fascism of mass surveillance
- asterix_pano 1y agoyou can also use https://nano-gpt.com/ https://nano-gpt.com/ if privacy is necessary
- nialv7 1y agoBeing on-par with competitors is somehow a "massive leap" for OpenAI now? How far have they fallen...
- raincole 1y agoAre you kidding? If GPT 5 is really on par with Opus 4.1, it means now OpenAI is offering the same product but 10 times cheaper. In any other industry it's not just a massive leap. It's "all competitors are out of market in a few months if they can't release something similar."
- profstasiak 1y agogoalpost shifting for GPT5? I remember it was supposed to be AGI
- JackYoustra 1y agoNeedle in a haystack is not a good evaluation though - even famously bad llama 4 does well on that benchmark.