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It's very interesting how memetic the language around different models is. Elon seems to have coined "PhD level intelligence in all topics" and now Sam repeated
by bmau5 1y ago
It's very interesting how memetic the language around different models is. Elon seems to have coined "PhD level intelligence in all topics" and now Sam repeated it in his presentation. Despite it not having an actual meaning. I think OpenAI will coin they've achieved AGI first (as they have incentives to based on the rumored contract with MSFT), and then everyone will claim we've achieved it.
- riku_iki 1y agoOpenAI has clear and strange definition of AGI in contract with MSFT: it should produce 100B economic impact.
- bmau5 1y agoThanks for pointing that out, I missed that. Very curious how they'll measure that. Given they're in the double-digit billions of revenue I'd assume they can reason they'll be there very soon.
- throwanem 1y agoWho knew we've had AGI for something like three hundred years? (Or, only had NGI for so long?)
- wavemode 1y agoDoes it count if the impact is negative?
- famouswaffles 1y agoThat not their definition of AGI. It's "a highly autonomous system that can outperform humans at most economically valuable work."
- 9rx 1y agoYour half of the definition is implied, but uninteresting. They would not see the 100B economic impact without your definition being realized. But what is curious about it is that it is also not to be considered AGI without meeting the value marker. "a highly autonomous system that can outperform humans at most economically valuable work." alone is not sufficient.
- famouswaffles 1y ago>Your half of the definition is implied, but uninteresting. How is it uninteresting? Open AI had revenue of $12B last year without monetizing literally hundreds of millions of free users in any way whatsoever (not even ads). Microsoft's cloud revenue has exploded in the last few years off the back of AI model services. Let's not even get into the other players. 100B in economic impact is more than achievable with the technology we have today right now. That half is the interesting part.
- 9rx 1y ago> Open AI had revenue of $12B last year And it could have been $1T for all anyone cares. The impact was delivered by humans. This is about impact delivered by AGI.
- famouswaffles 1y agoThat makes no sense. Money generated by direct usage is economic impact by the model. If you use GPT-N substantially in your work, then saying that impact rests solely on you is nonsensical.
- 9rx 1y ago> Money generated by direct usage is economic impact by the model. But not at the "hand" of AGI. Perhaps you forgot to read your very own definition? Notably the "autonomous" part. When AGI is set free and starts up "Closed I", generating $12B in economic value without humans steering the wheel, we will be (well, I will be, at least!) throughly impressed. But Microsoft won't be. They won't consider it AGI until it does $100B. > If you use GPT-N substantially in your work, then saying that impact rests solely on you is nonsensical. And if you use a hammer substantially in your work to generate $100B in value, a hammer is AGI according to you? You can hold that idea, but that's not what anyone else is talking about. The primary indicator of AGI, as you even said yourself, is autonomy.
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- clueless 1y agoElon did not coin this, Kurzweil has been using this coinage for a lot longer.
- bmau5 1y agoGot it. I should have stated Elon used to describe their latest model release, not coined. Thank you
- Telemakhos 1y agoAs a fairly dumb person with a PhD, I can attest that a degree means perseverance, not intelligence.
- ToValueFunfetti 1y agoAfter watching Claude cheerfully circle Team Rocket HQ for a month, I can attest that perseverence is not what stands between current models and PhDs.
- thechao 1y agoIf you're ever in Austin, gimme a call. I'd love to be a dumb & doctored, together.
- seydor 1y agoI gotta say PhDs are a dime a dozen these days, and yet we are talking about science stagnation. And PhDs are not very smart imho (I am one)
- kevinventullo 1y agoI think “PhD level knowledge” is probably a more meaningful and accurate phrase.