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Who in their right mind hands off tasks to one of these for their day job? They can never be trusted.

ActionHank 1y ago
They can be great for focused tasks with very specific acceptance criteria. Especially in cases where you have broad test coverage that can verify nothing broke. We already see bots that monitor repos to bump versions. I suspect we will see this expand to handle larger version bumps, minor issues, minor features. Basically junior dev learning tasks.
- SchizoDuckie 1y ago
  Great. So Junior devs will be useless now. Now how are we going to train more senior devs that know what they're doing?
  - midnitewarrior 1y ago
    I really appreciate your optimism about a future world where you expect senior devs will be needed. How do we get the tech bros to share your vision for the future?
    - SchizoDuckie 1y ago
      As it stands right now, until there is some radically new way that doesn't hallucinate implementations, is grounded in security rules and actually understands what it's doing in the larger context of the system it's working in I am not really worried about my job. I stopped worrying about what techbro's think a long time ago. I saw one slinging a blockchain ai nft filesystem that will ingest and organize your documents for you on twitter yesterday.
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  - ianandrich 1y ago
    Thats the neat part. We won't.
  - alex_suzuki 1y ago
    No need. In a year, senior devs will be useless as well. </sarcasm>
  - brap 1y ago
    I’m sorry but how is that any of your business? If a company prefers small teams right now, at the cost of not having juniors to grow into seniors in the future, they are well within their rights to make that decision. Might be an awful decision, might be a smart one, in any case there is no “we” here.
    - SchizoDuckie 1y ago
      How is that any of my business? Well, I'm a software dev by trade and hobby, and I hack the planet on the side and advise multibillion $$$ companies on the security mistakes they make. Even for the next 5 years I'd like to be able to have some capable humans in my teams.
      - brap 1y ago
        Then hire juniors for your own team? How is this an issue?
    - vineyardmike 1y ago
      > I’m sorry but how is that any of your business? Part of living in a society is considering the social impact of things. Such as the erosion of training opportunities for young talent. Each business can make their own decisions, but someone should be thinking about the greater good. “Within your rights” doesn’t mean it’s a good thing, nor should that be the sole standard we set for members of our society. Same reason people hire interns and write technical blogs, open source code and sponsor school hackathons. Sometimes the greater good should be a consideration.
      - brap 1y ago
        >Same reason people hire interns and write technical blogs I’m sorry but almost nobody does this for the greater good
  - seunosewa 1y ago
    They will train themselves by doing open source projects with AI.
esafak 1y ago
You have to review their work, the same as any human's. What's the matter, you don't like cheap assistants?
- percentcer 1y ago
  Assistants can be taught
  - esafak 1y ago
    And these models get upgraded -- at a much faster averaged rate than humans. Continual vs punctuated improvement :)
- munificent 1y ago
  > What's the matter, you don't like cheap assistants? I think the main reason I'm not personally excited about AI is that... no, I don't, actually. I'm in my late 40s. I have had many opportunities to move into management. I haven't because while I enjoy working with others, I derive the most satisfaction from feeling like I'm getting my hands dirty and doing work myself. Spending the entire day doing code reviews of my army of minions might be strictly more productive, but it's not a job I would enjoy having. I have never, for a second, felt some sort of ambitious impulse to move up the org chart and become some sort of executive giving marching orders. The world that AI boosters are driving towards seems to me to be one where the only human jobs left are effectively middle management where the leaf nodes of the org chart are all machines. It may the case that such a world has greater net productivity and the stock prices will go up. But it's not a world that feels meaningful, dignified, or desirable to me.
  - lbrito 1y ago
    I feel exactly this but I'm in my mid 30s. You're lucky in the sense that you probably have a longer career and may be able to retire.
    - munificent 1y ago
jmtulloss 1y ago
https://blog.singleton.io/posts/2025-06-14-coding-agents-cross-a-chasm/ https://blog.singleton.io/posts/2025-06-14-coding-agents-cro... The former CTO of stripe, for one. They show you the code they produce. Why wouldn’t you trust it after reading it?
asadm 1y ago
i do. ALL. THE. TIME.

They can be great for focused tasks with very specific acceptance criteria. Especially in cases where you have broad test coverage that can verify nothing broke. We already see bots that monitor repos to bump versions. I suspect we will see this expand to handle larger version bumps, minor issues, minor features. Basically junior dev learning tasks.

SchizoDuckie 1y ago
Great. So Junior devs will be useless now. Now how are we going to train more senior devs that know what they're doing?
- midnitewarrior 1y ago
  I really appreciate your optimism about a future world where you expect senior devs will be needed. How do we get the tech bros to share your vision for the future?
  - SchizoDuckie 1y ago
    As it stands right now, until there is some radically new way that doesn't hallucinate implementations, is grounded in security rules and actually understands what it's doing in the larger context of the system it's working in I am not really worried about my job. I stopped worrying about what techbro's think a long time ago. I saw one slinging a blockchain ai nft filesystem that will ingest and organize your documents for you on twitter yesterday.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
- ianandrich 1y ago
  Thats the neat part. We won't.
- alex_suzuki 1y ago
  No need. In a year, senior devs will be useless as well. </sarcasm>
- brap 1y ago
  I’m sorry but how is that any of your business? If a company prefers small teams right now, at the cost of not having juniors to grow into seniors in the future, they are well within their rights to make that decision. Might be an awful decision, might be a smart one, in any case there is no “we” here.
  - SchizoDuckie 1y ago
    How is that any of my business? Well, I'm a software dev by trade and hobby, and I hack the planet on the side and advise multibillion $$$ companies on the security mistakes they make. Even for the next 5 years I'd like to be able to have some capable humans in my teams.
    - brap 1y ago
      Then hire juniors for your own team? How is this an issue?
  - vineyardmike 1y ago
    > I’m sorry but how is that any of your business? Part of living in a society is considering the social impact of things. Such as the erosion of training opportunities for young talent. Each business can make their own decisions, but someone should be thinking about the greater good. “Within your rights” doesn’t mean it’s a good thing, nor should that be the sole standard we set for members of our society. Same reason people hire interns and write technical blogs, open source code and sponsor school hackathons. Sometimes the greater good should be a consideration.
    - brap 1y ago
      >Same reason people hire interns and write technical blogs I’m sorry but almost nobody does this for the greater good
- seunosewa 1y ago
  They will train themselves by doing open source projects with AI.

esafak 1y ago

You have to review their work, the same as any human's. What's the matter, you don't like cheap assistants?

percentcer 1y ago
Assistants can be taught
- esafak 1y ago
  And these models get upgraded -- at a much faster averaged rate than humans. Continual vs punctuated improvement :)
munificent 1y ago
> What's the matter, you don't like cheap assistants? I think the main reason I'm not personally excited about AI is that... no, I don't, actually. I'm in my late 40s. I have had many opportunities to move into management. I haven't because while I enjoy working with others, I derive the most satisfaction from feeling like I'm getting my hands dirty and doing work myself. Spending the entire day doing code reviews of my army of minions might be strictly more productive, but it's not a job I would enjoy having. I have never, for a second, felt some sort of ambitious impulse to move up the org chart and become some sort of executive giving marching orders. The world that AI boosters are driving towards seems to me to be one where the only human jobs left are effectively middle management where the leaf nodes of the org chart are all machines. It may the case that such a world has greater net productivity and the stock prices will go up. But it's not a world that feels meaningful, dignified, or desirable to me.
- lbrito 1y ago
  I feel exactly this but I'm in my mid 30s. You're lucky in the sense that you probably have a longer career and may be able to retire.
  - munificent 1y ago

jmtulloss 1y ago

https://blog.singleton.io/posts/2025-06-14-coding-agents-cross-a-chasm/ https://blog.singleton.io/posts/2025-06-14-coding-agents-cro... The former CTO of stripe, for one. They show you the code they produce. Why wouldn’t you trust it after reading it?

asadm 1y ago

i do. ALL. THE. TIME.