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Do you know where Noam makes that argument? I've been trying to figure out where I picked it up years ago. I'd like to revisit it to deepen my understanding. It

Do you know where Noam makes that argument? I've been trying to figure out where I picked it up years ago. I'd like to revisit it to deepen my understanding. It's a pretty universal insight.

kevindamm 1y ago
I think it was in "Manufacturing Consent" by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent#:~:text=The%20large%20entities%20that%20provide%20this%20subsidy%20become%20%27routine%27%20news%20sources%20and%20have%20privileged%20access%20to%20the%20gates.%20Non%2Droutine%20sources%20must%20struggle%20for%20access%2C%20and%20may%20be%20ignored%20by%20the%20arbitrary%20decision%20of%20the%20gatekeepers.%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent#:~:text=... https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12617.Manufacturing_Consent https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12617.Manufacturing_Cons... Though this is often associated with his and Herman's "Propaganda Model," Chomsky has also commented that the same appears in scholarly literature, despite the overt propaganda forces of ownership and advertisement being absent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model#:~:text=Chomsky%20has%20insisted,%5B31%5D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model#:~:text=Choms...
sitkack 1y ago
Look for discussion with British journalist Andrew Marr during a BBC interview in 1996. The lead in to the quote starts at https://youtu.be/GjENnyQupow?t=662 https://youtu.be/GjENnyQupow?t=662 "I don't say you're self-censoring - I'm sure you believe everything you're saying; but what I'm saying is, if you believed something different, you wouldn't be sitting where you're sitting." -- Noam Chomksy to Andrew Marr
- delusional 1y ago
  It's a shame the interviewer didn't quite grasp that point and dig a little deeper into it. Listening to it again I'm reminded of "The masters tools will never dismantle the master's house". Thank you for finding that link for me :)
SequoiaHope 1y ago
Ooh yes I do! https://chomsky.info/19890315/ https://chomsky.info/19890315/

Do you know where Noam makes that argument? I've been trying to figure out where I picked it up years ago. I'd like to revisit it to deepen my understanding. It's a pretty universal insight.

kevindamm 1y ago

I think it was in "Manufacturing Consent" by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent#:~:text=The%20large%20entities%20that%20provide%20this%20subsidy%20become%20%27routine%27%20news%20sources%20and%20have%20privileged%20access%20to%20the%20gates.%20Non%2Droutine%20sources%20must%20struggle%20for%20access%2C%20and%20may%20be%20ignored%20by%20the%20arbitrary%20decision%20of%20the%20gatekeepers.%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent#:~:text=... https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12617.Manufacturing_Consent https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12617.Manufacturing_Cons... Though this is often associated with his and Herman's "Propaganda Model," Chomsky has also commented that the same appears in scholarly literature, despite the overt propaganda forces of ownership and advertisement being absent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model#:~:text=Chomsky%20has%20insisted,%5B31%5D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model#:~:text=Choms...

sitkack 1y ago

Look for discussion with British journalist Andrew Marr during a BBC interview in 1996. The lead in to the quote starts at https://youtu.be/GjENnyQupow?t=662 https://youtu.be/GjENnyQupow?t=662 "I don't say you're self-censoring - I'm sure you believe everything you're saying; but what I'm saying is, if you believed something different, you wouldn't be sitting where you're sitting." -- Noam Chomksy to Andrew Marr

delusional 1y ago
It's a shame the interviewer didn't quite grasp that point and dig a little deeper into it. Listening to it again I'm reminded of "The masters tools will never dismantle the master's house". Thank you for finding that link for me :)

SequoiaHope 1y ago

Ooh yes I do! https://chomsky.info/19890315/ https://chomsky.info/19890315/