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Huh? People used satellites as an excuse to not wire rural America for electricity? Starlink might not be as fast as fiber, but it's more than good enough.

jmb99 1y ago
They were responding to: > I don't see how running internet over wires to rural housing could ever be seen as a good expenditure of money. In pure ROI, it's the same as running electrical service to rural areas. But still very important in general
WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
> Starlink might not be as fast as fiber, but it's more than good enough. Users running up against oversubscription - this is a when not if condition. The capacity limits inherent to satellite tech are what they are. ref: https://kagi.com/search?q=starlink+oversubscribed&dr=4&r=us&sh=kbfdjKTzWd9NIFcxkeeshw https://kagi.com/search?q=starlink+oversubscribed&dr=4&r=us&... Between now and then, users' routine downloads run up against caps (eg:steam game packs).
- thesuitonym 1y ago
  Search engine are not references, but how do you generate sharing links in Kagi?
  - andrewstuart2 1y ago
    There's a share link (the < symbol with nodes at the point and tips) right to the bottom and right of the search bar on a results page.
- andrewstuart2 1y ago
  It's not just the limitations of satellite tech or quantity. There's also just the fundamental limit of RF in shared airspace. You run into bandwidth limits due to interference even without overcrowding low earth orbit with a satellite network. When you're running signals over a wire/fiber, your signals are confined and interference is managed relatively trivially.
tw04 1y ago
> Huh? People used satellites as an excuse to not wire rural America for electricity? Obviously that’s what I meant. And I didn’t mean people used the excuse of “we shouldn’t be pulling cable to all these houses when X is good enough”. There were endless excuses to not electrify rural America including “they don’t need it”. It was eventually solved through co-ops. That’s exactly how most rural areas are trying to solve fiber, but of course they get to fight the combination of folks like you that think “satellite is good enough” (it isn’t), and legacy ISPs suing them to slow or stop deployment.

jmb99 1y ago

They were responding to: > I don't see how running internet over wires to rural housing could ever be seen as a good expenditure of money. In pure ROI, it's the same as running electrical service to rural areas. But still very important in general

WarOnPrivacy 1y ago

> Starlink might not be as fast as fiber, but it's more than good enough. Users running up against oversubscription - this is a when not if condition. The capacity limits inherent to satellite tech are what they are. ref: https://kagi.com/search?q=starlink+oversubscribed&dr=4&r=us&sh=kbfdjKTzWd9NIFcxkeeshw https://kagi.com/search?q=starlink+oversubscribed&dr=4&r=us&... Between now and then, users' routine downloads run up against caps (eg:steam game packs).

thesuitonym 1y ago
Search engine are not references, but how do you generate sharing links in Kagi?
- andrewstuart2 1y ago
  There's a share link (the < symbol with nodes at the point and tips) right to the bottom and right of the search bar on a results page.
andrewstuart2 1y ago
It's not just the limitations of satellite tech or quantity. There's also just the fundamental limit of RF in shared airspace. You run into bandwidth limits due to interference even without overcrowding low earth orbit with a satellite network. When you're running signals over a wire/fiber, your signals are confined and interference is managed relatively trivially.

tw04 1y ago

> Huh? People used satellites as an excuse to not wire rural America for electricity? Obviously that’s what I meant. And I didn’t mean people used the excuse of “we shouldn’t be pulling cable to all these houses when X is good enough”. There were endless excuses to not electrify rural America including “they don’t need it”. It was eventually solved through co-ops. That’s exactly how most rural areas are trying to solve fiber, but of course they get to fight the combination of folks like you that think “satellite is good enough” (it isn’t), and legacy ISPs suing them to slow or stop deployment.