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Ad blockers on Safari effectively have the same weaknesses as ad blockers on Chrome now have since the deprecation of the blocking webRequest API (which Safari

by shawnz 1y ago

Ad blockers on Safari effectively have the same weaknesses as ad blockers on Chrome now have since the deprecation of the blocking webRequest API (which Safari never supported). See https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b... for some examples of things you can't do without those APIs.

frou_dh 1y ago
As I understand it, AdGuard uses (in addition to a browser extension) a system-level local network proxy so can do anything to requests and responses? Confusingly, there are 3 offerings: "AdGuard for Mac", "AdGuard for iOS" and "AdGuard for Safari" and I think it's the first 2 that are the good stuff, even for Safari.
lapcat 1y ago
> the blocking webRequest API (which Safari never supported) This is inaccurate. Safari (Mac) supported it until 2019, and indeed there was a version of uBlock Origin for Safari back then.
- shawnz 1y ago
  Interesting, thanks for the correction.
- saagarjha 1y ago
  I don't think uBlock Origin ever supported Safari?
  - lapcat 1y ago
    https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158 https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158
    - saagarjha 1y ago
      Ah, unofficial fork
      - lapcat 1y ago
        It was a fork. I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "unofficial". Gorhill said at the time that he didn't have time to maintain a Safari version, but he was aware of the fork, which mostly shared code with upstream, and seemingly endorsed the fork. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/About-Safari-and-Canary-support https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/About-Safari-and-Cana...
mary-ext 1y ago
that said, gorhill has made a decent effort on making most uBlock/Adguard filter rules work within dNR. the only problem is that you just don't have any choice for custom filters, it relies on prebaked resources.
- ezfe 1y ago
  Which is not a Safari restriction. Applications are allowed to revise those resources, they are not hardcoded into the bundle.

by shawnz 1y ago

frou_dh 1y ago

As I understand it, AdGuard uses (in addition to a browser extension) a system-level local network proxy so can do anything to requests and responses? Confusingly, there are 3 offerings: "AdGuard for Mac", "AdGuard for iOS" and "AdGuard for Safari" and I think it's the first 2 that are the good stuff, even for Safari.

lapcat 1y ago

> the blocking webRequest API (which Safari never supported) This is inaccurate. Safari (Mac) supported it until 2019, and indeed there was a version of uBlock Origin for Safari back then.

shawnz 1y ago
Interesting, thanks for the correction.
saagarjha 1y ago
I don't think uBlock Origin ever supported Safari?
- lapcat 1y ago
  https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158 https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158
  - saagarjha 1y ago
    Ah, unofficial fork
    - lapcat 1y ago
      It was a fork. I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "unofficial". Gorhill said at the time that he didn't have time to maintain a Safari version, but he was aware of the fork, which mostly shared code with upstream, and seemingly endorsed the fork. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/About-Safari-and-Canary-support https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/About-Safari-and-Cana...

mary-ext 1y ago

that said, gorhill has made a decent effort on making most uBlock/Adguard filter rules work within dNR. the only problem is that you just don't have any choice for custom filters, it relies on prebaked resources.

ezfe 1y ago
Which is not a Safari restriction. Applications are allowed to revise those resources, they are not hardcoded into the bundle.