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While not open source, I have had good experiences with Reolink. They integrate well into Home Assistant and Frigate.

by fullstop 1y ago

miiiiiike 1y ago
Yeah, I need open source firmware.
- formerly_proven 1y ago
  Yeah, you have to choose. Either a decent camera, or open source. Can't have both.
  - hungmung 1y ago
    You could rig up some rPi's, but then you gotta maintain everything yourself. Weatherproofing is probably a PITA too.
    - charcircuit 1y ago
      rPi don't have an open source firmware either.
      - formerly_proven 1y ago
        And no decent image sensors.
        bc569a80a344f9c 1y ago
        The ones they sell aren’t great, but you can - with a bit of perseverance as it’s non-trivial - connect CSI-2 MIPI to a Raspberry Pi, and use any image sensor that supports that. Which includes a ton of great Sony CMOS sensors.
        michaelt 1y ago
        Are you sure? My info might be out-of-date, but a few years ago the MIPI support was in some propriety Broadcom firmware. So your choice was basically the ~3 sensors on official RPi camera boards (although people would sell you things like different lens mounts etc)
        enigmo 1y ago
        https://www.tindie.com/products/will123321/fourthirdeye-v10/ https://www.tindie.com/products/will123321/fourthirdeye-v10/ and a few other third party options have been available.
    - qmr 1y ago
      3d printer plexiglass and silicone caulk ez pz
- starky 1y ago
  What is the requirement for open source FW? As long as you get a camera that is ONVIF certified then there is no risk of lock in as it is an open standard that is compatible with most VMS software.
  - crote 1y ago
    Don't forget that it is still an IP connected device, which will realistically never receive a security update. Best-case scenario it'll call back to the mothership, worst-case scenario it'll turn into a backdoor for your entire network and you'll start receiving ransomware threats with awkward photos/videos attached to them.
    - hn_go_brrrrr 1y ago
      You can avoid this by preventing any traffic to or from the device except from Frigate.
    - michaelt 1y ago
      > worst-case scenario [...] you'll start receiving ransomware threats with awkward photos/videos attached to them Honestly, I can kinda understand having outdoor cameras, if you're in a high crime area - but I just can't empathise with folks who feel more secure after putting indoor cameras in their own home.
      - fragmede 1y ago
        I think it's for the case of if you have a nice house and you have a party and people come over, and they bring people that you don't know over, and something goes missing, they want to be able to see who took it.
        wutwutwat 1y ago
        > I think it's for the case of if you have a nice house and you have a party and people come over thought this was going down a P Diddy route there for a second

While not open source, I have had good experiences with Reolink. They integrate well into Home Assistant and Frigate.

miiiiiike 1y ago

Yeah, I need open source firmware.

formerly_proven 1y ago
Yeah, you have to choose. Either a decent camera, or open source. Can't have both.
- hungmung 1y ago
  You could rig up some rPi's, but then you gotta maintain everything yourself. Weatherproofing is probably a PITA too.
  - charcircuit 1y ago
    rPi don't have an open source firmware either.
    - formerly_proven 1y ago
      And no decent image sensors.
      - bc569a80a344f9c 1y ago
        The ones they sell aren’t great, but you can - with a bit of perseverance as it’s non-trivial - connect CSI-2 MIPI to a Raspberry Pi, and use any image sensor that supports that. Which includes a ton of great Sony CMOS sensors.
        michaelt 1y ago
        Are you sure? My info might be out-of-date, but a few years ago the MIPI support was in some propriety Broadcom firmware. So your choice was basically the ~3 sensors on official RPi camera boards (although people would sell you things like different lens mounts etc)
        enigmo 1y ago
        https://www.tindie.com/products/will123321/fourthirdeye-v10/ https://www.tindie.com/products/will123321/fourthirdeye-v10/ and a few other third party options have been available.
  - qmr 1y ago
    3d printer plexiglass and silicone caulk ez pz
starky 1y ago
What is the requirement for open source FW? As long as you get a camera that is ONVIF certified then there is no risk of lock in as it is an open standard that is compatible with most VMS software.
- crote 1y ago
  Don't forget that it is still an IP connected device, which will realistically never receive a security update. Best-case scenario it'll call back to the mothership, worst-case scenario it'll turn into a backdoor for your entire network and you'll start receiving ransomware threats with awkward photos/videos attached to them.
  - hn_go_brrrrr 1y ago
    You can avoid this by preventing any traffic to or from the device except from Frigate.
  - michaelt 1y ago
    > worst-case scenario [...] you'll start receiving ransomware threats with awkward photos/videos attached to them Honestly, I can kinda understand having outdoor cameras, if you're in a high crime area - but I just can't empathise with folks who feel more secure after putting indoor cameras in their own home.
    - fragmede 1y ago
      I think it's for the case of if you have a nice house and you have a party and people come over, and they bring people that you don't know over, and something goes missing, they want to be able to see who took it.
      - wutwutwat 1y ago
        > I think it's for the case of if you have a nice house and you have a party and people come over thought this was going down a P Diddy route there for a second