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If your IPv6 address is more complicated than your password, you have bigger problems. Remembering and communicating mildly complex byte sequences should be an

If your IPv6 address is more complicated than your password, you have bigger problems. Remembering and communicating mildly complex byte sequences should be an issue which is solved already.

deathanatos 1y ago
> Remembering and communicating mildly complex byte sequences should be an issue which is solved already. It is solved already, it's called DNS.
- userbinator 1y ago
  ...except when DNS doesn't work. IPv4 addresses are not any more difficult to remember than phone numbers, but the same can't be said of IPv6.
  - wredcoll 1y ago
    I agree, lets limit the total number of internet devices to 4 billion just in case we need to memorize one of the addresses. The other 4 billion people on the planet don't really need internet connections do they?
    - saulpw 1y ago
      The counter-proposal to IPv6's 128-bits was 64-bits. This is 16 quintillion devices, which seems fine. Doubling the address space is a good strategy when you need more. Quadrupling it is over-engineering.
      - Dylan16807 1y ago
        The extra space means you never have to calculate subnet sizes and you can let devices handle their own IPs. I think that's a pretty good tradeoff. 64 bits are already a pain in the ass to remember, and if you have specific memorization needs you can use small static IPs so that even with 128 bits available you only use about 64 of them.
      - wredcoll 1y ago
        What's the benefit to 64 bits? They're still hard to memorize and they're still not going to be backwards compatible.
      - Dagger2 1y ago
        It's a good strategy if deploying a bigger address space is easy and cheap. When it's incredibly difficult and time consuming, you should pause and consider a bit more carefully. New L3 protocols on the Internet are firmly on the "incredibly difficult and time consuming" side.
homebrewer 1y ago
Diceware is way easier to share over the phone than any IPv6 address (except for the few vanity ones like Google's 2001:4860:4860::8888 — then it's only slightly easier). https://www.eff.org/dice https://www.eff.org/dice

If your IPv6 address is more complicated than your password, you have bigger problems. Remembering and communicating mildly complex byte sequences should be an issue which is solved already.

deathanatos 1y ago

> Remembering and communicating mildly complex byte sequences should be an issue which is solved already. It is solved already, it's called DNS.

userbinator 1y ago
...except when DNS doesn't work. IPv4 addresses are not any more difficult to remember than phone numbers, but the same can't be said of IPv6.
- wredcoll 1y ago
  I agree, lets limit the total number of internet devices to 4 billion just in case we need to memorize one of the addresses. The other 4 billion people on the planet don't really need internet connections do they?
  - saulpw 1y ago
    The counter-proposal to IPv6's 128-bits was 64-bits. This is 16 quintillion devices, which seems fine. Doubling the address space is a good strategy when you need more. Quadrupling it is over-engineering.
    - Dylan16807 1y ago
      The extra space means you never have to calculate subnet sizes and you can let devices handle their own IPs. I think that's a pretty good tradeoff. 64 bits are already a pain in the ass to remember, and if you have specific memorization needs you can use small static IPs so that even with 128 bits available you only use about 64 of them.
    - wredcoll 1y ago
      What's the benefit to 64 bits? They're still hard to memorize and they're still not going to be backwards compatible.
    - Dagger2 1y ago
      It's a good strategy if deploying a bigger address space is easy and cheap. When it's incredibly difficult and time consuming, you should pause and consider a bit more carefully. New L3 protocols on the Internet are firmly on the "incredibly difficult and time consuming" side.

homebrewer 1y ago

Diceware is way easier to share over the phone than any IPv6 address (except for the few vanity ones like Google's 2001:4860:4860::8888 — then it's only slightly easier). https://www.eff.org/dice https://www.eff.org/dice