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Except that one vehicle is completely incompetent for its primary use 99% of the time :)

by bix6 1y ago

culi 1y ago
In a sane society "knowing someone with a truck" is all you really need. In a highly individualistic society "having a truck just in case" is the dominant precept
- amelius 1y ago
  In most places in the 1st world you can rent a truck if you need one * For other times, use a car. * a truck is just a car that misses a roof over the back part of it
  - bArray 1y ago
    > * a truck is just a car that misses a roof over the back part of it Respectfully, a truck is not just a car missing the back part of it. It often has a lot more power, is lifted, has off-road springs, larger wheels, low and high speed gear box, roll cage for the front cabin, raised air intake - the list goes on. Most people, though, do just need a car with a removable back.
    - amelius 1y ago
      In any case, the "truck" from the article doesn't seem to have all that.
  - mullingitover 1y ago
    I own a truck.* *It’s stored at Home Depot and whenever I need it, I just pay them $19 for the hour or so that I use it.
    - mckn1ght 1y ago
      I did this for a while. You’re leaving out some ancillary details: time driving to and from home depot to pick up and drop off the truck, needing a truck and no rentals available, picking up a rental truck and there’s some issue with it, something happens out of your control that requires more time with the truck but you can’t extend the rental… all things i’ve encountered. At some point the number of times i needed to use it picked up (hah) which multiplied these inconveniences enough that it became worth it to just pick up (hah) a used truck. I use it exclusively for hauling work, but that usually entails at least one trip without a load, which may lead people to incorrectly judging me for driving it unnecessarily.
- Ray20 1y ago
  >In a sane society "knowing someone with a truck" is all you really need. Yes, yes, we all know. "You'll own nothing and be happy". Fewer and fewer people believe you.
- NoLinkToMe 1y ago
  Fully agreed. Although to add, I literally never met someone with a truck, and in fact never owned a car myself either, but rented a car and also ranted a van plenty of times during a move, even with a driver. Same reason I don't own an airplane, I just rent one with a driver if I go on holiday trips. Big caveat: I've always lived in a (capital) city of my country and I have no kids yet. But by and large I think renting for the 3 day a year use-case makes more sense than owning 365 days of the year, even if you have no friends to rely on.
  - SkyPuncher 1y ago
    If you tow anything, renting is not an option. Rental contracts almost always prohibit towing or restrict it to only 1st party trailers.
    - mlhpdx 1y ago
      This. I learned as much when I was clobbered by a distracted teen and my SUV ended up in the shop. I use it a lot for moving people, things and towing (like daily). Nobody would rent me a SUV and allow me to tow with it, only commercial truck rentals at ridiculous rates. And for the truck driver haters three things: - Are you speaking from experience or projection? Stereotyping doesn’t work. After owning a large SUV for 25 years I can say with conviction that the price is worth the utility to me. No question. - I would LOVE to also own a small electric scooter for small trips. The cost and poor quality have put me off for years but it’s inevitable I’ll end up with one soon. - Our next sedan will be electric as well, and probably weigh more than the SUV. Truck owners aren’t idiots or evil.
    - NoLinkToMe 1y ago
      Eh perhaps if you rent a recreational vehicle from a company that caters these cars 90% to tourists . I've rented plenty of cars for towing, even with the trailer, from the same company. There are lots of companies that specialize in renting out vehicles for moving, construction etc. There is a market for everything.
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SilverElfin 1y ago
You don’t know that. You’re making assumptions. But even if that were true, so what? Maybe it is important to that person’s quality of life to have the truck for weekend adventures or chores.
- stouset 1y ago
  If this were the case, you’d see more trucks with wear and tear on them and fewer with five years in and pristine paint jobs. Most people buy trucks as a lifestyle choice, not as a practical one. That’s not to say there aren’t real uses for trucks, or people who use them for their designed purpose. That’s also not to say people should be required to purchase only vehicles that meet their basic transportation requirements. People drive sports cars even without ever going out to a track. Trucks (and full-size SUVs) specifically push some pretty crappy externalities onto other road users, so it’s not exactly crazy to be annoyed with people who buy and drive big trucks a personality trait.
  - cosmic_cheese 1y ago
    Yep. Trucks that actually get used as trucks look like it with dings, scratches, and scuffs because they’re tools, not toys. Ironically they’re also often old small models that owners have been keeping running forever because they’re cheap to fix, practical, and easy to park unlike their embiggened modern counterparts.
    - SilverElfin 1y ago
      > Trucks that actually get used as trucks look like it with dings, scratches, and scuffs because they’re tools, not toys. Not really. Lots of people use trucks and keep them in pristine condition too. Beds have liners now to keep them looking new. And you aren’t getting random dings on the outside unless you drive into things.
      - cosmic_cheese 1y ago
        The amount of effort required to keep them pristine scales with the quantity and intensity of the work performed, no? The most serious truck drivers probably aren’t going to have time to buff out every little mark when it’s going to get covered in them again on the job tomorrow.

Except that one vehicle is completely incompetent for its primary use 99% of the time :)

by bix6 1y ago

Except that one vehicle is completely incompetent for its primary use 99% of the time :)

culi 1y ago

In a sane society "knowing someone with a truck" is all you really need. In a highly individualistic society "having a truck just in case" is the dominant precept

amelius 1y ago
In most places in the 1st world you can rent a truck if you need one * For other times, use a car. * a truck is just a car that misses a roof over the back part of it
- bArray 1y ago
  > * a truck is just a car that misses a roof over the back part of it Respectfully, a truck is not just a car missing the back part of it. It often has a lot more power, is lifted, has off-road springs, larger wheels, low and high speed gear box, roll cage for the front cabin, raised air intake - the list goes on. Most people, though, do just need a car with a removable back.
  - amelius 1y ago
    In any case, the "truck" from the article doesn't seem to have all that.
- mullingitover 1y ago
  I own a truck.* *It’s stored at Home Depot and whenever I need it, I just pay them $19 for the hour or so that I use it.
  - mckn1ght 1y ago
    I did this for a while. You’re leaving out some ancillary details: time driving to and from home depot to pick up and drop off the truck, needing a truck and no rentals available, picking up a rental truck and there’s some issue with it, something happens out of your control that requires more time with the truck but you can’t extend the rental… all things i’ve encountered. At some point the number of times i needed to use it picked up (hah) which multiplied these inconveniences enough that it became worth it to just pick up (hah) a used truck. I use it exclusively for hauling work, but that usually entails at least one trip without a load, which may lead people to incorrectly judging me for driving it unnecessarily.
Ray20 1y ago
>In a sane society "knowing someone with a truck" is all you really need. Yes, yes, we all know. "You'll own nothing and be happy". Fewer and fewer people believe you.
NoLinkToMe 1y ago
Fully agreed. Although to add, I literally never met someone with a truck, and in fact never owned a car myself either, but rented a car and also ranted a van plenty of times during a move, even with a driver. Same reason I don't own an airplane, I just rent one with a driver if I go on holiday trips. Big caveat: I've always lived in a (capital) city of my country and I have no kids yet. But by and large I think renting for the 3 day a year use-case makes more sense than owning 365 days of the year, even if you have no friends to rely on.
- SkyPuncher 1y ago
  If you tow anything, renting is not an option. Rental contracts almost always prohibit towing or restrict it to only 1st party trailers.
  - mlhpdx 1y ago
    This. I learned as much when I was clobbered by a distracted teen and my SUV ended up in the shop. I use it a lot for moving people, things and towing (like daily). Nobody would rent me a SUV and allow me to tow with it, only commercial truck rentals at ridiculous rates. And for the truck driver haters three things: - Are you speaking from experience or projection? Stereotyping doesn’t work. After owning a large SUV for 25 years I can say with conviction that the price is worth the utility to me. No question. - I would LOVE to also own a small electric scooter for small trips. The cost and poor quality have put me off for years but it’s inevitable I’ll end up with one soon. - Our next sedan will be electric as well, and probably weigh more than the SUV. Truck owners aren’t idiots or evil.
  - NoLinkToMe 1y ago
    Eh perhaps if you rent a recreational vehicle from a company that caters these cars 90% to tourists . I've rented plenty of cars for towing, even with the trailer, from the same company. There are lots of companies that specialize in renting out vehicles for moving, construction etc. There is a market for everything.
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SilverElfin 1y ago

You don’t know that. You’re making assumptions. But even if that were true, so what? Maybe it is important to that person’s quality of life to have the truck for weekend adventures or chores.

stouset 1y ago
If this were the case, you’d see more trucks with wear and tear on them and fewer with five years in and pristine paint jobs. Most people buy trucks as a lifestyle choice, not as a practical one. That’s not to say there aren’t real uses for trucks, or people who use them for their designed purpose. That’s also not to say people should be required to purchase only vehicles that meet their basic transportation requirements. People drive sports cars even without ever going out to a track. Trucks (and full-size SUVs) specifically push some pretty crappy externalities onto other road users, so it’s not exactly crazy to be annoyed with people who buy and drive big trucks a personality trait.
- cosmic_cheese 1y ago
  Yep. Trucks that actually get used as trucks look like it with dings, scratches, and scuffs because they’re tools, not toys. Ironically they’re also often old small models that owners have been keeping running forever because they’re cheap to fix, practical, and easy to park unlike their embiggened modern counterparts.
  - SilverElfin 1y ago
    > Trucks that actually get used as trucks look like it with dings, scratches, and scuffs because they’re tools, not toys. Not really. Lots of people use trucks and keep them in pristine condition too. Beds have liners now to keep them looking new. And you aren’t getting random dings on the outside unless you drive into things.
    - cosmic_cheese 1y ago
      The amount of effort required to keep them pristine scales with the quantity and intensity of the work performed, no? The most serious truck drivers probably aren’t going to have time to buff out every little mark when it’s going to get covered in them again on the job tomorrow.