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Wonder what their contracts look like. Are these people gonna be grinding their ass off at the Meta offices working crazy hours? Does Zucc have a strong vision,

Wonder what their contracts look like. Are these people gonna be grinding their ass off at the Meta offices working crazy hours? Does Zucc have a strong vision, leadership, and management skills to actually push and enable these people to achieve maximum success? And if so, what does that form of success look like? So far the vision that Zucc has outlined has been rather underwhelming, but maybe the vision which he shares with insiders is different from his public persona. I can't help but think that the structure of this kinda hints at there being a bit of a scam-y element, where a bunch of smart people are trying to pump some rich people out of as much money as possible, with questionable chances at making it back. Imagine that the people on The List had all the keys needed to build AGI already if they put their knowledge together, what action do you think they would take?

walterbell 1y ago
> Imagine.. had all the keys needed .. that had already leaked and would later plummet in value.
jodrellblank 1y ago
> "Does Zucc have a strong vision, leadership, and management skills to actually push and enable these people to achieve maximum success?" I suggest we saw a clear demonstration of that with the Metaverse and the answer is no, but more intensely than two letters can communicate.
- baobabKoodaa 1y ago
  I agree with you, BUT most of these AI folks have intrinsic motivation for this AI stuff that is on a whole different level compared to their motivation for building the Metaverse. So even though Zuck isn't particularly effective at motivating people or whatnot, these people will be motivated regardless.
xorcist 1y ago
What I most would like to understand is how you intend to motivate someone you just gave a quarter of a billion dollars to? Especially a young person. They never have to work again, and neither do their grandchildren. You can just doodle away with whatever research interests you the most, there's no need to deliver a god mode AI to the great leader even if you had the ability to.
- elbear 1y ago
  Seems like their only motivation is their desire to succeed, glory, etc.
  - xorcist 1y ago
    But that's the thing. These are hired people. Their job is to bring glory to the great leader. Exactly the same way Altman get the OpenAI fame. If you really had thoughts in your head worth a quarter of a billion, the rational thing to do is not to spill those beans. Approximately no one is motivated by money they already have.
    - elbear 1y ago
      I mean, if you publish something considered a breakthrough don't you also get glory?
- lionkor 1y ago
  Im sure in the US you can never have enough money
  - xandrius 1y ago
    If $250M is still not enough, you are definitely broken.
- satrxrer 1y ago
  I think Dario Amodei just said this much on a podcast and that is why he isn't worried. That they are building a team with a selection bias for this too.
- JonChesterfield 1y ago
  Plenty of people are motivated by the work, not the money. Given more money they just subcontract out increasing fractions of the overhead of life in order to do more of the work.

walterbell 1y ago

> Imagine.. had all the keys needed .. that had already leaked and would later plummet in value.

jodrellblank 1y ago

> "Does Zucc have a strong vision, leadership, and management skills to actually push and enable these people to achieve maximum success?" I suggest we saw a clear demonstration of that with the Metaverse and the answer is no, but more intensely than two letters can communicate.

baobabKoodaa 1y ago
I agree with you, BUT most of these AI folks have intrinsic motivation for this AI stuff that is on a whole different level compared to their motivation for building the Metaverse. So even though Zuck isn't particularly effective at motivating people or whatnot, these people will be motivated regardless.

xorcist 1y ago

What I most would like to understand is how you intend to motivate someone you just gave a quarter of a billion dollars to? Especially a young person. They never have to work again, and neither do their grandchildren. You can just doodle away with whatever research interests you the most, there's no need to deliver a god mode AI to the great leader even if you had the ability to.

elbear 1y ago
Seems like their only motivation is their desire to succeed, glory, etc.
- xorcist 1y ago
  But that's the thing. These are hired people. Their job is to bring glory to the great leader. Exactly the same way Altman get the OpenAI fame. If you really had thoughts in your head worth a quarter of a billion, the rational thing to do is not to spill those beans. Approximately no one is motivated by money they already have.
  - elbear 1y ago
    I mean, if you publish something considered a breakthrough don't you also get glory?
lionkor 1y ago
Im sure in the US you can never have enough money
- xandrius 1y ago
  If $250M is still not enough, you are definitely broken.
satrxrer 1y ago
I think Dario Amodei just said this much on a podcast and that is why he isn't worried. That they are building a team with a selection bias for this too.
JonChesterfield 1y ago
Plenty of people are motivated by the work, not the money. Given more money they just subcontract out increasing fractions of the overhead of life in order to do more of the work.