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F9 truly has no business being this good. Their previous video [1], about hub-center steering, has an absolutely fantastic oner where Ryan gets heckled by not o

by slau 1y ago

F9 truly has no business being this good. Their previous video [1], about hub-center steering, has an absolutely fantastic oner where Ryan gets heckled by not one but two kids on scooters passing by, and still manages to finish the 3 minute take discussing path dependence and fitting a Robert Frost poem into a motorcycle review video. That segment starts around minute 7. [1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBgv-SJEQg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBgv-SJEQg

Luc 1y ago
Yeah, those heckles are added in post IMHO. Microphones don't work that way.
- slau 1y ago
  It’s the same voice for both kids, so yes, but doesn’t mean he didn’t get heckled.
  - snozolli 1y ago
    It was a scripted joke and the voice was added in post.
HPsquared 1y ago
Also Italjet popping into the comments to say they're still around.
n1b0m 1y ago
What a pro :)
bartvk 1y ago
I agree but every now and then, he comes with truly exhausting things. Like protectors being not worth it. https://youtu.be/nINIJ1cAbYM https://youtu.be/nINIJ1cAbYM
- kryogen1c 1y ago
  > truly exhausting things. Like protectors being not worth it. What do you mean? The video is very convincing, I don't see a hole in the logic.
  - bzz01 1y ago
    This video has a bunch of cherry picking results and sound bites from already underpowered studies.
    - tpmoney 1y ago
      As an uninformed observer, the studies were the least “convincing” part of his argument. It was the minimum force transfer numbers and the human force limit numbers, and then the note that other sports have stricter standards for the protectiveness of their gear that was the standout argument. The obvious questions that come to mind are “does commonly available gear exceed the standards despite the minimums” and “is the test representative of real world impacts”.
- deelowe 1y ago
  Many in the racing community share his opinions. All these things seem to accomplish is making you hot.
  - sgt 1y ago
    It's partly true. I used to ride dirt bikes with full protection everywhere and it just makes you hot, I went to thinner protection and with more focus on getting the basics right: protect your feet at all costs, and protect your head. Aside from that, you're mostly fine. I still wear some light armor on knees and upper body though.
    - ManuelKiessling 1y ago
      Why are the feet so important?
delichon 1y ago
"And that doesn't even count the stiffy you'll get every time you change tires on two single-sided swing arms." I thought that this man was brave when he allowed himself to be dragged across pavement in a nylon jacket, but his script writing is even more courageous.
- scythe 1y ago
  Is it really nylon? Don't we have lots of polymers tougher than nylon? Sure they're expensive, but it's your life, isn't it?
  - barrkel 1y ago
    Cordura is the brand name for the usual abrasion resistant material in synthetic jackets, and it is a nylon.
ubermonkey 1y ago
It's nuts, right? I mean, I ride, but I know plenty of folks who are subscribed to the F9 Youtube channel who don't just because so much of the content they do scratches nerdy itches. Some of my favorites, in case anyone's interested: * Ryan's periodic "check out this weird bike from the past" clips are always great, but I really LOVE the one about the Honda Rune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuWiKz9zno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuWiKz9zno * Their "trilogy" of sorts about Harley, and the hows and whys of their odd and honestly self-defeating decisions, are all great, but my favorite is the one that compares an Indian Scout to its then-corresponding Harley model; the Indian made 43% more power, and it's all down to Harley's genuflection at "tradition". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooue7i73zo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooue7i73zo The other two are "why millions ride HD" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeuXShFIgyc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeuXShFIgyc), which kinda lays the background for the tradition at work in the aforementioned video; and "How HD killed itself" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOwxxsPaogY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOwxxsPaogY), which is more about their demographic problem. * They did a "how to deal with dealers" video that is really a thinly veiled tribute to a particularly excellent and longstanding dealership, which is just lovely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA * And my personal favorite is the FANTASTIC film homage built into Ryan's vid about the Ducati Desert X, which he ended up buying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcFqVIadWYo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcFqVIadWYo
stickfigure 1y ago
Here's my favorite F9 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA Without offering any spoilers, I bought a couple new dirt bikes recently and went out of my way to find a "Kenco equivalent" in the Bay Area. Glad I did.
aunty_helen 1y ago
I took a bet this would be a F9 video before I opened the tab. Top quality content. A lot of motoring YouTube seems to have fallen away, or become so big it feels unreal “let’s race these 2000hp lambos.”

by slau 1y ago

Luc 1y ago

Yeah, those heckles are added in post IMHO. Microphones don't work that way.

slau 1y ago
It’s the same voice for both kids, so yes, but doesn’t mean he didn’t get heckled.
- snozolli 1y ago
  It was a scripted joke and the voice was added in post.

HPsquared 1y ago

Also Italjet popping into the comments to say they're still around.

n1b0m 1y ago

What a pro :)

bartvk 1y ago

I agree but every now and then, he comes with truly exhausting things. Like protectors being not worth it. https://youtu.be/nINIJ1cAbYM https://youtu.be/nINIJ1cAbYM

kryogen1c 1y ago
> truly exhausting things. Like protectors being not worth it. What do you mean? The video is very convincing, I don't see a hole in the logic.
- bzz01 1y ago
  This video has a bunch of cherry picking results and sound bites from already underpowered studies.
  - tpmoney 1y ago
    As an uninformed observer, the studies were the least “convincing” part of his argument. It was the minimum force transfer numbers and the human force limit numbers, and then the note that other sports have stricter standards for the protectiveness of their gear that was the standout argument. The obvious questions that come to mind are “does commonly available gear exceed the standards despite the minimums” and “is the test representative of real world impacts”.
deelowe 1y ago
Many in the racing community share his opinions. All these things seem to accomplish is making you hot.
- sgt 1y ago
  It's partly true. I used to ride dirt bikes with full protection everywhere and it just makes you hot, I went to thinner protection and with more focus on getting the basics right: protect your feet at all costs, and protect your head. Aside from that, you're mostly fine. I still wear some light armor on knees and upper body though.
  - ManuelKiessling 1y ago
    Why are the feet so important?

delichon 1y ago

"And that doesn't even count the stiffy you'll get every time you change tires on two single-sided swing arms." I thought that this man was brave when he allowed himself to be dragged across pavement in a nylon jacket, but his script writing is even more courageous.

scythe 1y ago
Is it really nylon? Don't we have lots of polymers tougher than nylon? Sure they're expensive, but it's your life, isn't it?
- barrkel 1y ago
  Cordura is the brand name for the usual abrasion resistant material in synthetic jackets, and it is a nylon.

ubermonkey 1y ago

It's nuts, right? I mean, I ride, but I know plenty of folks who are subscribed to the F9 Youtube channel who don't just because so much of the content they do scratches nerdy itches. Some of my favorites, in case anyone's interested: * Ryan's periodic "check out this weird bike from the past" clips are always great, but I really LOVE the one about the Honda Rune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuWiKz9zno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuWiKz9zno * Their "trilogy" of sorts about Harley, and the hows and whys of their odd and honestly self-defeating decisions, are all great, but my favorite is the one that compares an Indian Scout to its then-corresponding Harley model; the Indian made 43% more power, and it's all down to Harley's genuflection at "tradition". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooue7i73zo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooue7i73zo The other two are "why millions ride HD" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeuXShFIgyc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeuXShFIgyc), which kinda lays the background for the tradition at work in the aforementioned video; and "How HD killed itself" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOwxxsPaogY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOwxxsPaogY), which is more about their demographic problem. * They did a "how to deal with dealers" video that is really a thinly veiled tribute to a particularly excellent and longstanding dealership, which is just lovely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA * And my personal favorite is the FANTASTIC film homage built into Ryan's vid about the Ducati Desert X, which he ended up buying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcFqVIadWYo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcFqVIadWYo

stickfigure 1y ago

Here's my favorite F9 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbr3JZAXDxA Without offering any spoilers, I bought a couple new dirt bikes recently and went out of my way to find a "Kenco equivalent" in the Bay Area. Glad I did.

aunty_helen 1y ago

I took a bet this would be a F9 video before I opened the tab. Top quality content. A lot of motoring YouTube seems to have fallen away, or become so big it feels unreal “let’s race these 2000hp lambos.”