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The End of Men

7 points by Impossible 14y ago

tsotha 14y ago
This is two years old and has been discussed into the dirt.
- philwelch 14y ago
  For reference: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1420553 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1420553
ilaksh 14y ago
This is interesting. From the standpoint of maintaining the relevance of men, I'm not super worried about colleges being dominated by women because I don't see college as being a good way to stay up-to-date with job skills or even to learn more basic skills. But maybe this is more a comment about the inadequacy of traditional learning (and my own issues with not finishing college) than it is about the concept of higher education in general or men and women. My reasoning is this: I dropped out of college after about two years. I had finished most of my general education requirements. However, I don't feel as though the general education information was mainly focused on really relevant knowledge or skills. Some of it was definitely important, but a lot of it was either outdated, not particularly relevant or important, or much further in depth than I needed to go. That also goes for the classes related to computer science that I took. I taught myself the most important skills that I have ever acquired in my life, computer programming, before I entered high school. I also don't think that the mechanism of learning in college is very efficient. In other words, here are some books, some lectures, and some tests. Everyone is expected to go the same pace. I feel that online environments and self-paced computer based training are much more efficient and useful, and more practical for obtaining the newest skillsets. Anyway that is a little bit out of the way of the main topic perhaps, but it might be more relevant than you think. I think there may be quite a few males who are taking a path similar to my own which involves more hands on self training, quite possibly lots of them in technology related fields. I also think that there may be significantly more men who are inclined to start their own businesses. So I guess I am not really worried about becoming irrelevant just yet. If I get a degree it will mostly be so that people can't hold the lack of it over my head for the rest of my life, rather than because there is a degree program that really has value from a learning perspective.
philwelch 14y ago
This is really just an accident of demographics. Women choose more risk-averse careers, hence female employment is less affected by economic corrections than male employment. The only reason it seems new is that previous recessions happened when there weren't nearly as many women in the workforce.
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The End of Men

7 points by Impossible 14y ago

tsotha 14y ago

This is two years old and has been discussed into the dirt.

philwelch 14y ago
For reference: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1420553 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1420553

ilaksh 14y ago

This is interesting. From the standpoint of maintaining the relevance of men, I'm not super worried about colleges being dominated by women because I don't see college as being a good way to stay up-to-date with job skills or even to learn more basic skills. But maybe this is more a comment about the inadequacy of traditional learning (and my own issues with not finishing college) than it is about the concept of higher education in general or men and women. My reasoning is this: I dropped out of college after about two years. I had finished most of my general education requirements. However, I don't feel as though the general education information was mainly focused on really relevant knowledge or skills. Some of it was definitely important, but a lot of it was either outdated, not particularly relevant or important, or much further in depth than I needed to go. That also goes for the classes related to computer science that I took. I taught myself the most important skills that I have ever acquired in my life, computer programming, before I entered high school. I also don't think that the mechanism of learning in college is very efficient. In other words, here are some books, some lectures, and some tests. Everyone is expected to go the same pace. I feel that online environments and self-paced computer based training are much more efficient and useful, and more practical for obtaining the newest skillsets. Anyway that is a little bit out of the way of the main topic perhaps, but it might be more relevant than you think. I think there may be quite a few males who are taking a path similar to my own which involves more hands on self training, quite possibly lots of them in technology related fields. I also think that there may be significantly more men who are inclined to start their own businesses. So I guess I am not really worried about becoming irrelevant just yet. If I get a degree it will mostly be so that people can't hold the lack of it over my head for the rest of my life, rather than because there is a degree program that really has value from a learning perspective.

philwelch 14y ago

This is really just an accident of demographics. Women choose more risk-averse careers, hence female employment is less affected by economic corrections than male employment. The only reason it seems new is that previous recessions happened when there weren't nearly as many women in the workforce.

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