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> Our collective response to COVID was truly the alarm bells going off (vaccine conspiracies, anti-masking, denialism, etc), and now we’re seeing an anti-scienc

> Our collective response to COVID was truly the alarm bells going off (vaccine conspiracies, anti-masking, denialism, etc), and now we’re seeing an anti-science (and anti-reality) administration celebrate the gutting of our scientific prestige in the name of nostalgia for -isms. You act like this is something specific to one party when in fact it is representative of both parties, aka the Uniparty. All agents of capital have blood on their hands from the pandemic they fumbled and that has not yet ended: How the press manufactured consent for never-ending COVID reinfections https://www.thegauntlet.news/p/how-the-press-manufactured-consent https://www.thegauntlet.news/p/how-the-press-manufactured-co... Also, this is nothing specific to the US, though considering how many countries followed the lead of the CDC etc, one could reasonably argue the US is most to blame. But don't let that distract you from the fact that ultimately, global capital runs the show: Modern Capitalism Is Weirder Than You Think It also no longer works as advertised. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/03/how-asset-managers-have-upended-how-modern-capitalism-works.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/03/how-asset-managers-h... (https://archive.ph/Ysw6k https://archive.ph/Ysw6k)

nradov 1y ago
What a silly article with zero connection to scientific reality. There's nothing special about SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19). It's just another coronavirus much like the others that were already endemic. Never-ending reinfections were always inevitable when the first carrier left Wuhan, so "manufactured consent" or lack thereof are utterly irrelevant.
- swed420 1y ago
  > What a silly article with zero connection to scientific reality. What a silly comment with zero connection to scientific reality. > Never-ending reinfections were always inevitable when the first carrier left Wuhan, so "manufactured consent" or lack thereof are utterly irrelevant. False. When properly and consistently worn, N95 respirators effectively stop COVID transmission. > It's just another coronavirus much like the others that were already endemic. It very clearly bucks previous trends, considering: 38% had self-reported long covid after 3 infections https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/post-covid-condition/ https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/post-covid-condit... 40% of the undergrad students reported brain fog due to COVID-19. 37% of the undergraduates exhibited impaired cognition up to 17 months post-infection. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159124007311?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S088915912... https://oem.bmj.com/content/81/9/471 https://oem.bmj.com/content/81/9/471 33.6% of healthcare workers have symptoms meeting NICE criteria for long Covid. Only 7.6% have a formal diagnosis 20% of kids (ages 6-11) and 14% of teens have for long covid https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2822770 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2822770 30% have long covid https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6065(24)00212-8/fulltext#au5 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6... 36% had long covid https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.01.24319384v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.01.24319384v... There's a load of studies that something like 90% of people with long covid don't get better years later. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(23)00143-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29513-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29513-z https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(23)00760-9/fulltext https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(23)00760-9/ful... https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj-2022-074425 https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj-2022-074425 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0... https://www.nature.com/articles/s43856-024-00657-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s43856-024-00657-x https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00394-8/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5... https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(25)00036-5/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-19... A common type of long covid is myalgic encephalomyelitis which is generally lifelong: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15699087/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15699087/ Here's two reviews papers about long covid which both say that common long covid subtypes are generally lifelong https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2
  - nradov 1y ago
    You've got to be kidding. No one is going to keep wearing those masks, regardless of whether they get reinfected occasionally. Get real. "Long COVID" isn't anything unique or special. An infection by most any virus can cause similar long-term symptoms in a subset of patients. It sucks for them, but that's just one of the many risks of living real world. The rest of us aren't going to waste time worrying about one more minor respiratory virus among hundreds of other ones.
    - swed420 1y ago
      > You've got to be kidding. No one is going to keep wearing those masks, regardless of whether they get reinfected occasionally. Give people the facts about COVID, that it is basically like airborne AIDS, and then let them decide. Unfortunately they were never given that chance thanks to capital's forced messaging on the issue. Even most doctors are drinking the Koolaid. Everyone has a nuked immune system and have become used to getting sick constantly as a result, all seasons of the year. > "Long COVID" isn't anything unique or special. An infection by most any virus can cause similar long-term symptoms in a subset of patients. What's different about SARS-COV-2 is that it's constantly mutating and reinfecting at drastically greater rates than anything else we're used to dealing with. Each reinfection increases the risk of long COVID, causes measurable IQ loss, etc. But keep burying your head in the sand so that you can remain blissfully ignorant.
      - nradov 1y ago
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        swed420 1y ago
        > One of the worse parts about the COVID-19 pandemic is how it turned some otherwise intelligent people into deranged germaphobes. People who are taking the real risks of COVID seriously understand that COVID spreads through the air, not through fomite transmission.

nradov 1y ago

What a silly article with zero connection to scientific reality. There's nothing special about SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19). It's just another coronavirus much like the others that were already endemic. Never-ending reinfections were always inevitable when the first carrier left Wuhan, so "manufactured consent" or lack thereof are utterly irrelevant.

swed420 1y ago
> What a silly article with zero connection to scientific reality. What a silly comment with zero connection to scientific reality. > Never-ending reinfections were always inevitable when the first carrier left Wuhan, so "manufactured consent" or lack thereof are utterly irrelevant. False. When properly and consistently worn, N95 respirators effectively stop COVID transmission. > It's just another coronavirus much like the others that were already endemic. It very clearly bucks previous trends, considering: 38% had self-reported long covid after 3 infections https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/post-covid-condition/ https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/post-covid-condit... 40% of the undergrad students reported brain fog due to COVID-19. 37% of the undergraduates exhibited impaired cognition up to 17 months post-infection. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159124007311?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S088915912... https://oem.bmj.com/content/81/9/471 https://oem.bmj.com/content/81/9/471 33.6% of healthcare workers have symptoms meeting NICE criteria for long Covid. Only 7.6% have a formal diagnosis 20% of kids (ages 6-11) and 14% of teens have for long covid https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2822770 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2822770 30% have long covid https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6065(24)00212-8/fulltext#au5 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6... 36% had long covid https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.01.24319384v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.01.24319384v... There's a load of studies that something like 90% of people with long covid don't get better years later. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(23)00143-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29513-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29513-z https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(23)00760-9/fulltext https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(23)00760-9/ful... https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj-2022-074425 https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj-2022-074425 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0... https://www.nature.com/articles/s43856-024-00657-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s43856-024-00657-x https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00394-8/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5... https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(25)00036-5/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-19... A common type of long covid is myalgic encephalomyelitis which is generally lifelong: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15699087/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15699087/ Here's two reviews papers about long covid which both say that common long covid subtypes are generally lifelong https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2
- nradov 1y ago
  You've got to be kidding. No one is going to keep wearing those masks, regardless of whether they get reinfected occasionally. Get real. "Long COVID" isn't anything unique or special. An infection by most any virus can cause similar long-term symptoms in a subset of patients. It sucks for them, but that's just one of the many risks of living real world. The rest of us aren't going to waste time worrying about one more minor respiratory virus among hundreds of other ones.
  - swed420 1y ago
    > You've got to be kidding. No one is going to keep wearing those masks, regardless of whether they get reinfected occasionally. Give people the facts about COVID, that it is basically like airborne AIDS, and then let them decide. Unfortunately they were never given that chance thanks to capital's forced messaging on the issue. Even most doctors are drinking the Koolaid. Everyone has a nuked immune system and have become used to getting sick constantly as a result, all seasons of the year. > "Long COVID" isn't anything unique or special. An infection by most any virus can cause similar long-term symptoms in a subset of patients. What's different about SARS-COV-2 is that it's constantly mutating and reinfecting at drastically greater rates than anything else we're used to dealing with. Each reinfection increases the risk of long COVID, causes measurable IQ loss, etc. But keep burying your head in the sand so that you can remain blissfully ignorant.
    - nradov 1y ago
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      - swed420 1y ago
        > One of the worse parts about the COVID-19 pandemic is how it turned some otherwise intelligent people into deranged germaphobes. People who are taking the real risks of COVID seriously understand that COVID spreads through the air, not through fomite transmission.