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”While in Norway, OpenAI will also engage with government officials to explore opportunities for collaboration, including boosting AI adoption and helping to de
by danielscrubs 1y ago
”While in Norway, OpenAI will also engage with government officials to explore opportunities for collaboration, including boosting AI adoption and helping to deliver on Norway’s sovereign AI goals for the benefit of its people.”
Aka, Snowden thought us nothing.
Norwegians beware of ChatGPT used as a weapon to move oil money from the people to the ”future of business ”.
- veunes 1y agoYep, AI sovereignty shouldn't mean handing over control to foreign entities with better PR teams
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoIsn't Norway a key NATO member and huge buyer of F35 jets and other key US tech? What should Norway do? Buy Chinese and Russian instead?
- yard2010 1y agoWhat happened to Europe?
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoWhat's the European alternative to the things OpenAI puts in their datacenters? What's the European alternative to Nvidia H100s and Quantum InfiniBand, AMD Epycs and Instincs, and Intel Xeons? In the past you had European companies like ST, Ericsson, Nokia and Siemens who could design cutting edge compute and networking chips of the time, but those days are long gone, with European companies have missed out on the hyperscale race being relucted to making commodity low margin products, so they either have to buy American or Chinese if they want cutting edge.
- koonsolo 1y agoEurope produces no military jets, tanks, and other equipment?
- vintermann 1y agoEurope is not NATO?
- Jensson 1y agoEurope is not US.
- ben_w 1y agoMost European nations are also NATO nations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO#/media/File:NATO_32_Members.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO#/media/F...
- vintermann 1y agoExactly.
- esseph 1y agoSeems like the EU has decided to pull away from the US. As has Canada and frankly, a lot of the rest of the world.
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoPulling away by investing billions in the US economy and buying more US products and services? You have a weird definition of pulling away.
- esseph 1y agoIf you review the stipulations of the "deals" and read any of the analysis, these are stop-gaps. New production commitments, military commitments, pulling away from US big tech. No matter what happens, the damage has been done. It's picking up momentum seemingly every day. And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago>pulling away from US big tech Stock price says otherwise. Probably because replacing MS Office with Libre Office doesn't really mean much while still running your digital infrastructure on US services, US chips and US phones. Lemme know when EU creates its own You Tube. >And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers. Who's taking who's researchers? Got any examples. From what I saw Linus Torvalds is still in US.
- ben_w 1y ago> Lemme know when EU creates its own You Tube. March 15, 2005. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dailymotion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dailymotion > Who's taking who's researchers? Got any examples. From what I saw Linus Torvalds is still in US. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y I wouldn't call Linus a "scientific researcher". He's an engineer, and that's also a group that economies need, but he's not a scientist, and not a researcher. Unfortunately for the "engineering" part: https://archive.ph/xChye https://archive.ph/xChye
- mrjay42 1y agoWorked in Norway for six years in a research lab (50% private | 50% public). First thing I noticed when I arrived: they are using Google for emails, sharing documents, drives, meetings, research projects, etc. The loss of sovereignty that this represents AND the major risk for leaks/theft is MAD. It was a research lab entirely focused on tech/CS/computational science So it's not like they don't know stuff about technology. Years prior to this, I'm in Finland in a tiny lab in Turku/Åbo (the city has two names, one in Finnish the other in Swedish. I remember there was a dude doing his master's trying to integrate a bunch of devices (phone, desktop, laptop, cloud, etc.) so that basically your AI assistant can automatically handle stuff. This implied A LOT of constant (or almost constant) data collection. During one of the meeting, I think I'm the one who asked: "But wait, isn't this a massive issue in terms of privacy?" The big boss of the lab, replied: "Oh I know you're from France, and you guyz care a lot about this. But here we simply do not" Conclusion: I haven't looked at sociological studies trying to build an historical overview of the Nordic people and their relation to electronic privacy. But my experience goes so much against the idea I had about Nordic "culture" (this word means nothing here: Finnish and Norwegian are VERY different societies, but bear with me). I really believed that in those countries I'd find some high priority, super secured, home made, safe solutions for handling messaging, data, research -> it is REALLY NOT THE CASE, I haven't seen ANY OF THAT; they're all using USA made cloud-(AI)-tech.
- benhurmarcel 1y agoIt’s not specific to those countries. In France for example, major companies store their data (including research) on Microsoft or Google servers. For modern collaboration tools you don’t have that many options.
- dumbledoren 1y agoThe Nordic countries act as if they were an extension of the Angloamerican culture for some reason. They sure would object to their data being used by China or Russia for example, but American companies doing it doesnt pose a problem. But France has its own national identity, and it does not see itself as the extension of Angloamerica. So its natural that Angloamerican corporations having unfettered access to its data would be a no no.