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They shouldn't but the harsh reality is that we all suffer for the mistakes of our leaders. Put bad people in power (Hamas) and everyone pays.

fahhem 1y ago
Under 7% of Palestinians in Gaza (before losing 1-3% of their population in this genocide) voted for Hamas. The rest either didn't vote for them, or are too young to have voted. Should the US be nuked because ~51% voted for Trump (or Bush, Obama, Clinton, pick the one you hate)?
- AnimalMuppet 1y ago
  "Should"? I don't think that was a "should" statement. I think it was a cause and effect statement. Bad people in power leads to suffering in the population. This observation goes way back, at least as far as the book of Ecclesiastes: "Woe to you, O land, when your king is a child, and your princes feast in the morning!" Will the US suffer for putting bad people in power? Almost certainly, even if it doesn't come to the level of being nuked.
- lelanthran 1y ago
  > Should the US be nuked because ~51% voted for Trump (or Bush, Obama, Clinton, pick the one you hate)? During a declared wartime? It happens. I mean, what can you do? It's war! The allies didn't care that there were non-nazis when they carpet-bombed Dresden, nor did the US care that Hiroshima and Nagasaki possibly had large numbers of people against the Japanese rulers. So, yeah, should the US enter a hot war against a sovereign government that can strike back, that government will not care that only 51% of the population voted for the current US government. That's how war works, and that's why no one (short of actually insane blood-thirsty killers who are in it only to see corpses) wants to escalate a cold war to a hot war. If a population collectively elects leaders who provoke an escalation into a hot war, they can't very well be surprised at the response. OTOH, the US voting population has not had first-hand experience with a hot boots-on-the-ground-invasion war, hence they can be so cavalier about their choice of rulers. They haven't seen first-hand the result of engaging in war. The Palestinians and Israelis, however, have plenty of first-hand experience of the horrors of war, so those bastards have no excuse for supporting pro-war leaders.
disgruntledphd2 1y ago
> Put bad people in power (Hamas) and everyone pays. Put bad people in power (Likud) and everyone pays.

fahhem 1y ago

Under 7% of Palestinians in Gaza (before losing 1-3% of their population in this genocide) voted for Hamas. The rest either didn't vote for them, or are too young to have voted. Should the US be nuked because ~51% voted for Trump (or Bush, Obama, Clinton, pick the one you hate)?

AnimalMuppet 1y ago
"Should"? I don't think that was a "should" statement. I think it was a cause and effect statement. Bad people in power leads to suffering in the population. This observation goes way back, at least as far as the book of Ecclesiastes: "Woe to you, O land, when your king is a child, and your princes feast in the morning!" Will the US suffer for putting bad people in power? Almost certainly, even if it doesn't come to the level of being nuked.
lelanthran 1y ago
> Should the US be nuked because ~51% voted for Trump (or Bush, Obama, Clinton, pick the one you hate)? During a declared wartime? It happens. I mean, what can you do? It's war! The allies didn't care that there were non-nazis when they carpet-bombed Dresden, nor did the US care that Hiroshima and Nagasaki possibly had large numbers of people against the Japanese rulers. So, yeah, should the US enter a hot war against a sovereign government that can strike back, that government will not care that only 51% of the population voted for the current US government. That's how war works, and that's why no one (short of actually insane blood-thirsty killers who are in it only to see corpses) wants to escalate a cold war to a hot war. If a population collectively elects leaders who provoke an escalation into a hot war, they can't very well be surprised at the response. OTOH, the US voting population has not had first-hand experience with a hot boots-on-the-ground-invasion war, hence they can be so cavalier about their choice of rulers. They haven't seen first-hand the result of engaging in war. The Palestinians and Israelis, however, have plenty of first-hand experience of the horrors of war, so those bastards have no excuse for supporting pro-war leaders.

disgruntledphd2 1y ago

> Put bad people in power (Hamas) and everyone pays. Put bad people in power (Likud) and everyone pays.