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U.S. Imposes Sanctions on Brazilian Judge Overseeing Bolsonaro Coup Case

20 points by matheusmoreira 1y ago

matheusmoreira 1y ago
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- bigyabai 1y ago
  Seems like Trump is just upset that Bolsonaro's misdeeds are still being investigated. > Trump can do whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants So you don't oppose god-kings after all, huh? I could've guessed as much.
  - matheusmoreira 1y ago
    I really could not care any less about Bolsonaro. I just want the reign of these judge-god-kings to end. Trump can do whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants, I don't care. I just want him to end the judiciary dictatorship I'm currently living under. > So you don't oppose god-kings after all, huh? I could've guessed as much. As far as I'm concerned, Trump's helping me and my country as a whole. He's not our problem, it's up to the americans to deal with him however they see fit. As a brazilian, I literally do not have a vote in the matter.
    - stfp 1y ago
      Paraphrasing: “I like actual dictator wannabe A and actual dictator wannabe B and I’m glad they’re working together to punish people who are trying to fighting them”
      - matheusmoreira 1y ago
        The real dictators are these unelected judges. I've had actual lawyers tell me "judges = gods" to my face. It's just how things are in this shithole. Attempts to protest them resulted in thousands of arrests and 15+ years of imprisonment. People routinely get less jail time for cold blooded murder. And they're the supreme court so there's no possible recourse against them. So I'm glad some foreign power outside their jurisdiction is doing something about it regardless of their reasons.
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jqpabc123 1y ago
The force of the US government has been fully subverted to serve the political wishes of one person.
SilverElfin 1y ago
Isn’t this the same Brazilian Supreme Court that is basically making up laws and judgments as they go to suppress speech and political opposition, despite constitutional guarantees of speech? Yes I think they deserve sanctions just like other authoritarian states. But consistency would be nice - the US should sanction all states that don’t have some minimum level of free speech protections, not cherry pick them based on ideology or trade or whatever.
- matheusmoreira 1y ago
  The very same! They have been relentlessly grabbing power since at least 2019. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39966382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39966382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36543423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36543423 Every thread about this subject I go out of my way to recount what I saw and reference similar comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44619572 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44619572 I waited years for today's news. My only complaint is they sanctioned a single judge rather than the entire supreme court.
  - tuesdaynight 1y ago
    I find truly baffling reading your comments everytime you show up. I know you are not dumb, but you have a belief so out of reality that it makes me aware how smart people can get disillusioned the same as dumb people. I agree with some of your points, then you go on about how you are afraid of being arrested for commenting on Hacker News and I start questioning myself if someday I will get in that place mentally if I don't take care of what I look through the internet.
    - matheusmoreira 1y ago
      I'm curious about what's so "out of reality" about my beliefs. It's really simple. I looked up the brazilian constitution on the internet. I read it. When I tried to reconcile the text with what the judges were doing, I couldn't. My conclusion was that they were and still are engaging in blatantly unconstitutional acts. The constitution says something can't be done but they keep doing it. How can you possibly reach any other conclusion? These judges are effectively writing a new constitution and a new set of laws. They have not been elected. Therefore, Brazil is not a democracy. It's a dictatorship of the unelected judiciary. How can you possibly reach any other conclusion? I have found the people who tried to debate these matters with me utterly unconvincing. I would love to be shown that this country is not what I believe it to be but that seems increasingly unlikely. I'm tired of being told everything I know and remember is "fake" or whatever. I feel like I'm being constantly gaslit. Pretty much everything these judges censored as "fake news" was either true or became true literally months into Lula's mandate. Literal Ministry of Truth. And my fears are not at all unfounded. They've prosecuted completely normal people who criticized them in the past. They've gone after teenagers over online comments. I'm taking risks by posting here because of my sense of justice. I'm just too disgusted and disillusioned by what's happening in this country to keep quiet about it.

matheusmoreira 1y ago

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bigyabai 1y ago
Seems like Trump is just upset that Bolsonaro's misdeeds are still being investigated. > Trump can do whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants So you don't oppose god-kings after all, huh? I could've guessed as much.
- matheusmoreira 1y ago
  I really could not care any less about Bolsonaro. I just want the reign of these judge-god-kings to end. Trump can do whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants, I don't care. I just want him to end the judiciary dictatorship I'm currently living under. > So you don't oppose god-kings after all, huh? I could've guessed as much. As far as I'm concerned, Trump's helping me and my country as a whole. He's not our problem, it's up to the americans to deal with him however they see fit. As a brazilian, I literally do not have a vote in the matter.
  - stfp 1y ago
    Paraphrasing: “I like actual dictator wannabe A and actual dictator wannabe B and I’m glad they’re working together to punish people who are trying to fighting them”
    - matheusmoreira 1y ago
      The real dictators are these unelected judges. I've had actual lawyers tell me "judges = gods" to my face. It's just how things are in this shithole. Attempts to protest them resulted in thousands of arrests and 15+ years of imprisonment. People routinely get less jail time for cold blooded murder. And they're the supreme court so there's no possible recourse against them. So I'm glad some foreign power outside their jurisdiction is doing something about it regardless of their reasons.
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jqpabc123 1y ago

The force of the US government has been fully subverted to serve the political wishes of one person.

SilverElfin 1y ago

Isn’t this the same Brazilian Supreme Court that is basically making up laws and judgments as they go to suppress speech and political opposition, despite constitutional guarantees of speech? Yes I think they deserve sanctions just like other authoritarian states. But consistency would be nice - the US should sanction all states that don’t have some minimum level of free speech protections, not cherry pick them based on ideology or trade or whatever.

matheusmoreira 1y ago
The very same! They have been relentlessly grabbing power since at least 2019. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39966382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39966382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36543423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36543423 Every thread about this subject I go out of my way to recount what I saw and reference similar comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44619572 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44619572 I waited years for today's news. My only complaint is they sanctioned a single judge rather than the entire supreme court.
- tuesdaynight 1y ago
  I find truly baffling reading your comments everytime you show up. I know you are not dumb, but you have a belief so out of reality that it makes me aware how smart people can get disillusioned the same as dumb people. I agree with some of your points, then you go on about how you are afraid of being arrested for commenting on Hacker News and I start questioning myself if someday I will get in that place mentally if I don't take care of what I look through the internet.
  - matheusmoreira 1y ago
    I'm curious about what's so "out of reality" about my beliefs. It's really simple. I looked up the brazilian constitution on the internet. I read it. When I tried to reconcile the text with what the judges were doing, I couldn't. My conclusion was that they were and still are engaging in blatantly unconstitutional acts. The constitution says something can't be done but they keep doing it. How can you possibly reach any other conclusion? These judges are effectively writing a new constitution and a new set of laws. They have not been elected. Therefore, Brazil is not a democracy. It's a dictatorship of the unelected judiciary. How can you possibly reach any other conclusion? I have found the people who tried to debate these matters with me utterly unconvincing. I would love to be shown that this country is not what I believe it to be but that seems increasingly unlikely. I'm tired of being told everything I know and remember is "fake" or whatever. I feel like I'm being constantly gaslit. Pretty much everything these judges censored as "fake news" was either true or became true literally months into Lula's mandate. Literal Ministry of Truth. And my fears are not at all unfounded. They've prosecuted completely normal people who criticized them in the past. They've gone after teenagers over online comments. I'm taking risks by posting here because of my sense of justice. I'm just too disgusted and disillusioned by what's happening in this country to keep quiet about it.