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Dropbox Passwords discontinuation
- treetalker 1y agoI kinda wish Dropbox would stick to dropboxing. Always with the product-line creep. No doubt the next offerings will be Dropbox Email and "Dropbox the LLM" (better than Spaceballs the Flamethrower, I suppose).
- rjh29 1y agoI agree but what are they supposed to do? Cloud sharing is commoditized now and it's easy to move providers. Their only choice was to try to move up the stack, but there is no clear direction. It's video editing, e-signatures/encryption, passwords, AI, document editing... so far I haven't found any of those offerings useful. Their Linux support is however much appreciated.
- emeril 1y agoI suppose though to be honest, it seems they are still the best for cloud sharing I think?
- tayo42 1y agobetter then google drive?
- grues-dinner 1y agoThey have a Linux client, so, yes.
- Groxx 1y agoReduce price. Reduce the abominable resource usage. Allow E2E encryption. Increase performance so it doesn't trickle at tens of kilobytes for hours when I have 100Mbps upload and half a terabyte left. Like. Build a decent product. The lack of any major competition doesn't mean they should stop improving and branch out into costly absurdity, at least try to keep up with Maestral with 100x the headcount.
- andrewmcwatters 1y ago> Like. Build a decent product. Man, wouldn’t it be so cool if tech companies actually were competitive instead of trying to establish parasitic marketshare or dying with no in-between?
- kelvinjps10 1y agoAnyone knows about a good Dropbox alternative? That supports Linux
- jsk2600 1y agoGoogle Drive with Insync client (paid), I’m using it with no issues for years on Linux.
- Larrikin 1y agoYour own computer/NAS with tailscale for day to day usage of accessing your files from any computer from any other computer. Immich to replace the camera upload feature. Taildrop needs improvement with files over a gig and between other users though.
- disapptavocado 1y agoNot free but https://tresorit.com https://tresorit.com is great. E2E encryption and has a Linux client too.
- Flimm 1y agoThe main downside of Tresorit is that it does not support syncing symlinks. It also does not have LAN sync like Dropbox does. Tresorit does have E2E encryption, which is great. Only the enterprise version of Dropbox has E2E encryption.
- antonyh 1y agoThat is unfortunate for both symlinks and for a lack of LAN sync. Not having the ability to deal with anything I throw at it does add risk that the sync isn't true, but outside of the OS I don't use symlinks. LAN sync would save data transfers over slower links but with E2E is this isn't too surprising that it's centralised.
- bigstrat2003 1y agoWell... they could have not enabled a "share your data with us" checkbox without ever asking the user. I have no idea how many customers they lost by playing fast and loose with privacy (I, at least, was one), but it doesn't seem like it could've been worth it.
- slyall 1y agoIs cloud sharing really commoditized ? How many other options are they to sync files between my laptop and my phone, especially if my Laptop is running Linux?
- rjh29 1y agoGoogle Drive, iCloud, One Drive, 100 others. Yes Linux is a special case but mostly irrelevant to them.
- geoffpado 1y ago> Dropbox Email Been there, done that: https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/8/9873268/why-dropbox-mailbox-shutdown https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/8/9873268/why-dropbox-mailb...
- bobbylarrybobby 1y agoThis was a client, whereas I assume “dropbox email” was intended to mean a gmail competitor.
- coro_1 1y agoThere are 5 steps for every one 1 there once was for any given operation on the platform. The next offering will be 6 steps.
- bapak 1y agoYou could say Google should have stuck to search, Apple to computers, IBM to punching cards. As companies grow, they want to diversify and not die.
- hn8726 1y agoDropbox "ai" already exists too: https://dash.dropbox.com/ https://dash.dropbox.com/
- stmw 1y agoStrategically this doesn't make a lot of sense to me (password management is a natural adjacent product to their core offering), but I am sure they had lots of data that showed it wasn't succeeding. Having been involved in password managemetn before, what I have learned is that it is surprisingly difficult to continue to maintain as both browsers and websites change, the mobile situation is very difficult and it's just one of those software projects that seems simple.. but isn't. So if there is not a big attach rate, it makes sense for Dropbox to drop it.
- dehrmann 1y agoI assume consumers have moved to Google for files and still reuse passwords or use their browser's password manager. Companies have moved passwords to something like Okta, and probably Microsoft, Google, or possibly Box for files.
- microtonal 1y agoEven as a Dropbox user, I only half-knew that they had a password manager. I try to avoid their website because it tries to push me into a different plan every single time with popups, banners, etc. (despite being on a $20 per month family account). On the Mac, I avoid their own client and use Maestral for pretty much the same reasons. Unlike their old client, their Mac client annoys you with all kinds of (to me) irrelevant stuff. Only on Linux I use their client, because it's still the old client and does not bother me. I guess a lot of people that are still using and paying for Dropbox, do it because of their really excellent file sync and try to tune out of anything else because they tried to push too much crap over the years (remember when they tried to push everyone to use their mail client?). I would rather have them bring things like end-to-end encryption to all account types. Improve the functionality of the core product we are paying them for.
- AznHisoka 1y agoWhat is the biggest thing to maintain? Isn’t it just storing passwords?
- thimabi 1y ago
- rjh29 1y agoGoogle are known for cancelling products but you can at least be sure your files, passwords, bookmarks, map pins, and e-mails aren't going away. They have a core set of apps they've maintained for over two decades without pulling the rug out from under them.
- mantra2 1y agoI always figure with Google as long as the products are part of the core Apps/G-Suite/Workspace offering they’re fairly safe to use and anything else is a coin flip.
- Lammy 1y agos/fr-fr/en-us/ https://help.dropbox.com/en-us/installs/dropbox-passwords-discontinuation https://help.dropbox.com/en-us/installs/dropbox-passwords-di...
- tiffanyh 1y agoNot knowing that Dropbox offered a password manager … I misinterpreted the headline to mean I could no longer log into my Dropbox account with a password anymore (and thought they were forcing passkeys).
- greyface- 1y agoFor me, the headline evoked memories of this 2011 Dropbox security incident. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2678576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2678576
- sodality2 1y agoHilarious that the bitrotted dropbox blogpost linked in the techcrunch article discussing this vulnerability (quoted as saying things like “this never should have happened”) instead redirects to some dropbox blog home page, with “What happens when AI joins your team?” prominently featured. Initially I thought their postmortem was blaming AI very openly 14 years ago :D
- brundolf 1y agoSame
- alisonatwork 1y agoThis recently happened to me on Booking.com and... I ended up not using Booking.com to book a hotel. So long, genius status, or whatever. It absolutely drives me nuts that the western world is moving to "as seen in China" login-via-callback flow. Aside from the privacy issue of forcing people to attach an email or phone number or third-party auth provider to their every account, it's just a waste of time and energy to delete our passwords and force us through this weird multi-app flow just to log in to a service we spent years logging into without ever getting hacked. Imagine if every time you wanted to get into your house you had to press the doorbell and then wait for someone to call you back to decide whether you should be allowed in. It's absurd.
- ijustlovemath 1y ago
- relyks 1y agoThis stinks. I use this as my main password manager :(
- ildon 1y agoThis is very sad news. I've been using their password manager since it came out and, although not perfect, was working very well for me. As a long standing (paying) user of Dropbox (I believe I've been using it since the very beginning), and former stock holder, I believe Dropbox must adjust its course asap. They lack a clear vision for the future and their current offering is way too limited (and shrinking apparently). For the money they ask there's no point in actually paying for their product, unless one is already locked in. For the same price, or even less, one can get an entire Office suite (Google/MS), plus cloud storage. Sure, Google Drive or OneDrive are nowhere close to Dropbox in terms of sync quality, but how many users (business and consumers) are willing to pay such a premium for quality file sync on top of other subscriptions? Additionally, for many Dropbox is a no go for the simple fact that they don't have a reliable way to edit documents simultaneously. Recently I was looking for a cloud storage solution for a business that needed collaborative editing of documents. I had to go with Office365, as much as I would have preferred not to, because the way they allow multiple concurrent edits to documents is simply not matched by Dropbox (Google Drive is even better but it lacked some features that were essential for the business). Unfortunately it looks like the stock market is well aware of this. The capitalization of Dropbox has been essentially stagnating for ~5 years, if adjusted for inflation. I really hope that Dropbox can change its course by doing some brave acquisitions and rebuild its brand image with a more compelling and comprehensive offering.
- kookamamie 1y ago> sync quality Is this really a differentiator nowadays?
- SebastianKra 1y agoiCloud lost all my data twice. Before that, it was always stuck syncing some unknown files. I also ran into problems where conflict resolution in Apples own office apps wouldn't work and I'd just lose one of the version. So yes.
- antonyh 1y agoBoth Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive have had mass file loss events. Local LAN sync is hugely useful too. Upload speed matters, as does conflict resolution. These are features worth paying for.
- qnleigh 1y ago3 months doesn't seem like enough advanced warning before deleting essential data like this. What if someone is hiking the Pacific Coast Trail right now? Or is the recovering from a serious medical event? Or just doesn't use the app and the email they signed up with that often? Is it really that expensive for them to maintain minimal access for a year? This is not a rhetorical question.
- joey486DX4 1y agoSurprised they wouldn't just recommend KeePassXC with the database saved in the Dropbox folder. I've done this since the inception of Dropbox.
- sitzkrieg 1y agocompanies aquiring/integrating/developing password managers has been the biggest red flag ever
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