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I gave it an honest look for 5 minutes and after still only having found a 3-line hello world I gave up (and came here to complain). It's great that you have a

I gave it an honest look for 5 minutes and after still only having found a 3-line hello world I gave up (and came here to complain). It's great that you have all that philosophy behind it, all sounded great, but if you don't show me a compelling example in the first minute or two, not even in tutorial, then you'll fail to capture my interest.

ratdragon 1y ago
Example pony applications: https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/tree/main/examples https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/tree/main/examples Playground: https://playground.ponylang.io/ https://playground.ponylang.io/ They're on HP https://www.ponylang.io/ https://www.ponylang.io/ unfortunately the article link points to /discover/
- teiferer 1y ago
  Sure, if I go dig deep I'll find that. But I was talking about the sales pitch. Once it's necessary to go click links in a levels-down comment in the HN discussion section, you've already lost most folks.
  - jibal 1y ago
    They aren't selling anything, and they didn't write their documentation with HN in mind ... the OP is probably not associated with them.
    - qualeed 1y ago
      >they didn't write their documentation with HN in mind The programming language documentation wasn't written for an audience primarily composed of programmers? That would be an odd choice.
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    - RossBencina 1y ago
      The OP is definitely not associated with them. Just a curious actor model enthusiast.
Timwi 1y ago
I personally found the descriptions of the concepts and ideas more illuminating and interesting than a code example. If you're only looking to nitpick the superficial syntax, kinda like judging a person's character by how they dress, then I guess you're not in the target audience for this documentation.
- pdimitar 1y ago
  And you cannot have both at the same time, because...?
  - bmn__ 1y ago
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      - Tainnor 1y ago
        > Most people visiting such websites are programmers who are more often than not busy as all hell. Apparently not too busy to visit HN and post shallow dismissals. I agree with GP. Not everything is for everyone and expecting every project to cater to your very specific needs is rather entitled. If you're not interested, feel free to move on - I do that all the time for most of the content on here.
        pdimitar 1y ago
        > Apparently not too busy to visit HN and post shallow dismissals. Indeed, as you have just excellently demonstrated. I did not dismiss anything, I generalized, which I believe we're all aware is never accurate. Thought that much was obvious and did not warrant a response like yours. > If you're not interested, feel free to move on Exactly what I did, and then I and a few others explained why. No idea why that was met with emotional responses that classify mine and others as "shitty behaviour".
jibal 1y ago
dang recently pointed me to the HN guidelines. I think this one applies here: "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."
- chownie 1y ago
  This is by definition a critical comment which teaches something, ie if you don't present viewers with pertinent information about your project, they cannot take an interest in your project. I think it should be noted that both GP and another few highly rated comments are making this exact point.
  - jibal 1y ago
    "by definition"? It's apparently something you believe, but it certainly isn't a tautology. And I don't think that's an accurate characterization of that comment, at all.

ratdragon 1y ago

Example pony applications: https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/tree/main/examples https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/tree/main/examples Playground: https://playground.ponylang.io/ https://playground.ponylang.io/ They're on HP https://www.ponylang.io/ https://www.ponylang.io/ unfortunately the article link points to /discover/

teiferer 1y ago
Sure, if I go dig deep I'll find that. But I was talking about the sales pitch. Once it's necessary to go click links in a levels-down comment in the HN discussion section, you've already lost most folks.
- jibal 1y ago
  They aren't selling anything, and they didn't write their documentation with HN in mind ... the OP is probably not associated with them.
  - qualeed 1y ago
    >they didn't write their documentation with HN in mind The programming language documentation wasn't written for an audience primarily composed of programmers? That would be an odd choice.
    - jibal 1y ago
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  - RossBencina 1y ago
    The OP is definitely not associated with them. Just a curious actor model enthusiast.

Timwi 1y ago

I personally found the descriptions of the concepts and ideas more illuminating and interesting than a code example. If you're only looking to nitpick the superficial syntax, kinda like judging a person's character by how they dress, then I guess you're not in the target audience for this documentation.

pdimitar 1y ago
And you cannot have both at the same time, because...?
- bmn__ 1y ago
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  - pdimitar 1y ago
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    - Tainnor 1y ago
      > Most people visiting such websites are programmers who are more often than not busy as all hell. Apparently not too busy to visit HN and post shallow dismissals. I agree with GP. Not everything is for everyone and expecting every project to cater to your very specific needs is rather entitled. If you're not interested, feel free to move on - I do that all the time for most of the content on here.
      - pdimitar 1y ago
        > Apparently not too busy to visit HN and post shallow dismissals. Indeed, as you have just excellently demonstrated. I did not dismiss anything, I generalized, which I believe we're all aware is never accurate. Thought that much was obvious and did not warrant a response like yours. > If you're not interested, feel free to move on Exactly what I did, and then I and a few others explained why. No idea why that was met with emotional responses that classify mine and others as "shitty behaviour".

jibal 1y ago

dang recently pointed me to the HN guidelines. I think this one applies here: "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

chownie 1y ago
This is by definition a critical comment which teaches something, ie if you don't present viewers with pertinent information about your project, they cannot take an interest in your project. I think it should be noted that both GP and another few highly rated comments are making this exact point.
- jibal 1y ago
  "by definition"? It's apparently something you believe, but it certainly isn't a tautology. And I don't think that's an accurate characterization of that comment, at all.