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Use the API.

by nojito 1y ago

Use the API.

strictnein 1y ago
The API is far more expensive. For Opus 4 it's almost priced in a way that says "don't use this".
- chomp 1y ago
  That’s not what the parent commenter asked though, they wanted a price for not being concerned about limits. The API pricing is that.
  - johnpaulkiser 1y ago
    I doubts thats what they want. They want a static fixed price, $5k a month for example and never have to think about it.
    - paxys 1y ago
      Even if you used the API 24x7 for a single session (no parallel requests) I doubt you'd be able to hit $5k/mo in usage for Claude 4 Sonnet.
    - qeternity 1y ago
      Take the API and assume 24/7 usage (or whatever working hours are). That’s your fixed cost. It’s more likely that this sum is higher than they want. So really it’s not about predictability.
    - camgunz 1y ago
      The way these work is they're net profitable given all users, so you have to recategorize users in one of two ways: - a user subsidizing other users - a user subsidized by other users I don't know what OP prefers, but given that people are saying "woof, API pricing too expensive", it sounds like the latter. The problem, of course, is the provider has to find a market where the one sustains the other. Are there enough users who would pay > $200/mo without getting their money's worth in order to subsidize users paying the same rate, but using more than the average? I think the non-existence of a higher-tier plan says there probably isn't, but I don't want to give too much credence to markets, economics, etc.
awestroke 1y ago
I use Claude Code authenticated via the API (Anthropic Console). There's no limits for me. And I also assume API-metered requests are prioritized, so it's faster as well.
- data-ottawa 1y ago
  The API does have limits but they’re determined by your monthly spend. I did a trial of tier 1 spend and did hit the limits, but on on tier two spending it was much much better. https://docs.anthropic.com/en/api/rate-limits#requirements-to-advance-tier https://docs.anthropic.com/en/api/rate-limits#requirements-t...
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Use the API.

by nojito 1y ago

Use the API.

strictnein 1y ago

The API is far more expensive. For Opus 4 it's almost priced in a way that says "don't use this".

chomp 1y ago
That’s not what the parent commenter asked though, they wanted a price for not being concerned about limits. The API pricing is that.
- johnpaulkiser 1y ago
  I doubts thats what they want. They want a static fixed price, $5k a month for example and never have to think about it.
  - paxys 1y ago
    Even if you used the API 24x7 for a single session (no parallel requests) I doubt you'd be able to hit $5k/mo in usage for Claude 4 Sonnet.
  - qeternity 1y ago
    Take the API and assume 24/7 usage (or whatever working hours are). That’s your fixed cost. It’s more likely that this sum is higher than they want. So really it’s not about predictability.
  - camgunz 1y ago
    The way these work is they're net profitable given all users, so you have to recategorize users in one of two ways: - a user subsidizing other users - a user subsidized by other users I don't know what OP prefers, but given that people are saying "woof, API pricing too expensive", it sounds like the latter. The problem, of course, is the provider has to find a market where the one sustains the other. Are there enough users who would pay > $200/mo without getting their money's worth in order to subsidize users paying the same rate, but using more than the average? I think the non-existence of a higher-tier plan says there probably isn't, but I don't want to give too much credence to markets, economics, etc.

awestroke 1y ago

I use Claude Code authenticated via the API (Anthropic Console). There's no limits for me. And I also assume API-metered requests are prioritized, so it's faster as well.

data-ottawa 1y ago
The API does have limits but they’re determined by your monthly spend. I did a trial of tier 1 spend and did hit the limits, but on on tier two spending it was much much better. https://docs.anthropic.com/en/api/rate-limits#requirements-to-advance-tier https://docs.anthropic.com/en/api/rate-limits#requirements-t...
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