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That doesn't sound legal.

by catigula 1y ago

bilekas 1y ago
why wouldn't it be though?
- catigula 1y ago
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  - timschmidt 1y ago
    Tough to stop someone from packing up their belongings and getting on a boat. NASA has at times been used as a way to keep people with relevant skillsets employed domestically to prevent this.
  - ortusdux 1y ago
    Does not want ≠ illegal.
  - waffleiron 1y ago
    Then they should pay them, in Germany a non-compete has to be compensated. A country might not want brain drain at all, is it then acceptable to stop people from leaving?
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- daemonologist 1y ago
  EAR/ITAR restrictions maybe? China at least is ITAR restricted and has a lot of entities on the EAR list. I'm not a lawyer though; no idea what regulations you'd actually be subject to.
samrus 1y ago
For NASA? I dont see why not. Unless they were doing something related to natsec
nosianu 1y ago
There is worse going on in other areas, for example "China Recruiting Former R.A.F. Pilots to Train Its Army Pilots, U.K. Says" https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63293582 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63293582 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/17/world/europe/china-recruit-uk-military-pilots.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/17/world/europe/china-recrui... https://asiatimes.com/2024/12/what-uk-fighter-pilots-did-and-didnt-teach-chinas-pla/# https://asiatimes.com/2024/12/what-uk-fighter-pilots-did-and... And finally, the official response: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/former-armed-forces-personnel-training-foreign-militaries-could-be-prosecuted-under-national-security-act https://www.gov.uk/government/news/former-armed-forces-perso... It comes down to money and private interests dominating Western politics. It has bad but also good sides. Human conflict used to be about extermination a few thousand years ago, that is what I think of when I read such headlines, such things can actually also be seen as progress. We now have priorities other than our tribe or nation, that has good sides too. I like the Napoleonic war story where Napoleon gave a medal to a British scientist, Humphry Davy. While bad for the nation, I try to see it as a mixed bag that people from the top down are... flexible. The price we pay is, possibly, worse outcomes in conflicts. What we gain is that after conflicts end we get back to normal life - with one another - very quickly and relatively easily.
- catigula 1y ago
  A lot of your "we" seems to mean literally that your elites aren't loyal to you whereas other elites are loyal to the "us". That puts you in a uniquely disadvantageous position.

That doesn't sound legal.

bilekas 1y ago

why wouldn't it be though?

catigula 1y ago
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- timschmidt 1y ago
  Tough to stop someone from packing up their belongings and getting on a boat. NASA has at times been used as a way to keep people with relevant skillsets employed domestically to prevent this.
- ortusdux 1y ago
  Does not want ≠ illegal.
- waffleiron 1y ago
  Then they should pay them, in Germany a non-compete has to be compensated. A country might not want brain drain at all, is it then acceptable to stop people from leaving?
  - deleted 1y ago
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daemonologist 1y ago
EAR/ITAR restrictions maybe? China at least is ITAR restricted and has a lot of entities on the EAR list. I'm not a lawyer though; no idea what regulations you'd actually be subject to.

samrus 1y ago

For NASA? I dont see why not. Unless they were doing something related to natsec

nosianu 1y ago

There is worse going on in other areas, for example "China Recruiting Former R.A.F. Pilots to Train Its Army Pilots, U.K. Says" https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63293582 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63293582 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/17/world/europe/china-recruit-uk-military-pilots.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/17/world/europe/china-recrui... https://asiatimes.com/2024/12/what-uk-fighter-pilots-did-and-didnt-teach-chinas-pla/# https://asiatimes.com/2024/12/what-uk-fighter-pilots-did-and... And finally, the official response: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/former-armed-forces-personnel-training-foreign-militaries-could-be-prosecuted-under-national-security-act https://www.gov.uk/government/news/former-armed-forces-perso... It comes down to money and private interests dominating Western politics. It has bad but also good sides. Human conflict used to be about extermination a few thousand years ago, that is what I think of when I read such headlines, such things can actually also be seen as progress. We now have priorities other than our tribe or nation, that has good sides too. I like the Napoleonic war story where Napoleon gave a medal to a British scientist, Humphry Davy. While bad for the nation, I try to see it as a mixed bag that people from the top down are... flexible. The price we pay is, possibly, worse outcomes in conflicts. What we gain is that after conflicts end we get back to normal life - with one another - very quickly and relatively easily.

catigula 1y ago
A lot of your "we" seems to mean literally that your elites aren't loyal to you whereas other elites are loyal to the "us". That puts you in a uniquely disadvantageous position.