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France to recognise Palestinian state in September

36 points by lr0 1y ago

gambiting 1y ago
All I want to say I am genuinely scared to express any opinion on this topic online or in any group outside of my closest friends as it seems you can get into a whole world of trouble for just stating certain obvious facts. Even right now I feel the need to tip toe around it, rather than just saying it outright. I don't understand how we got to this point as a society.
- jsbisviewtiful 1y ago
  Religion is extremely divisive.
- bix6 1y ago
  Say it outright. Don’t let 5 bullies run the show. There’s way more good people than a*holes.
- literatepeople 1y ago
  As someone with Israeli parents, it's because of decades of propaganda. People in Gaza are viewed as evil and subhuman. It is sickening to me.
- Animats 1y ago
  Even within Israel it's extremely divisive. A member of the Knesset was suspended for calling the Gaza extermination a genocide.[1] Haaretz is comparing Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto.[2] Much of this is to keep Netanyahu in power. He needs a war to hold together his coalition.[3] [1] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-10/ty-article/.premium/knesset-suspends-ofer-cassif-for-accusing-idf-soldiers-of-committing-genocide-in-gaza/00000197-effc-d976-afbf-fffd32870000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-10/ty-article/.p... [2] https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-10/ty-article-opinion/.premium/the-jewish-state-is-building-a-ghetto/00000197-f0b4-d976-afbf-fdbd59460000 https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-10/ty-article-opinio... [3] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-09/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-has-staved-off-crises-and-paralysis-to-buy-himself-more-time-in-power/00000197-ec3a-d1ad-ab97-edffa03d0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-09/ty-article/.p...
- tim333 1y ago
  The situation there is rather complicated with both sides committing atrocities so if you say anything much some people will think you are in favour of some atrocity or other.
  - bdangubic 1y ago
    no, it is not complicated at all
  - deleted 1y ago
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- karmakurtisaani 1y ago
  There's a genocide going on, largely to keep Netanyahu in power. We should not be afraid to say it out loud.
  - onecommentman 1y ago
    People should know about the Masada complex for some context: https://www.jpost.com/magazine/opinion/the-masada-complex https://www.jpost.com/magazine/opinion/the-masada-complex
jokoon 1y ago
This is highly symbolic, this won't change much. This improves Macron's image from the left. Maybe it improves diplomatic relationships with some countries, but I wonder how.

36 points by lr0 1y ago

All I want to say I am genuinely scared to express any opinion on this topic online or in any group outside of my closest friends as it seems you can get into a whole world of trouble for just stating certain obvious facts. Even right now I feel the need to tip toe around it, rather than just saying it outright. I don't understand how we got to this point as a society.

jsbisviewtiful 1y ago
Religion is extremely divisive.
bix6 1y ago
Say it outright. Don’t let 5 bullies run the show. There’s way more good people than a*holes.
literatepeople 1y ago
As someone with Israeli parents, it's because of decades of propaganda. People in Gaza are viewed as evil and subhuman. It is sickening to me.
Animats 1y ago
Even within Israel it's extremely divisive. A member of the Knesset was suspended for calling the Gaza extermination a genocide.[1] Haaretz is comparing Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto.[2] Much of this is to keep Netanyahu in power. He needs a war to hold together his coalition.[3] [1] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-10/ty-article/.premium/knesset-suspends-ofer-cassif-for-accusing-idf-soldiers-of-committing-genocide-in-gaza/00000197-effc-d976-afbf-fffd32870000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-10/ty-article/.p... [2] https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-10/ty-article-opinion/.premium/the-jewish-state-is-building-a-ghetto/00000197-f0b4-d976-afbf-fdbd59460000 https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-10/ty-article-opinio... [3] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-09/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-has-staved-off-crises-and-paralysis-to-buy-himself-more-time-in-power/00000197-ec3a-d1ad-ab97-edffa03d0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-09/ty-article/.p...
tim333 1y ago
The situation there is rather complicated with both sides committing atrocities so if you say anything much some people will think you are in favour of some atrocity or other.
- bdangubic 1y ago
  no, it is not complicated at all
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
karmakurtisaani 1y ago
There's a genocide going on, largely to keep Netanyahu in power. We should not be afraid to say it out loud.
- onecommentman 1y ago
  People should know about the Masada complex for some context: https://www.jpost.com/magazine/opinion/the-masada-complex https://www.jpost.com/magazine/opinion/the-masada-complex

jokoon 1y ago

This is highly symbolic, this won't change much. This improves Macron's image from the left. Maybe it improves diplomatic relationships with some countries, but I wonder how.