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Okay, but how much do you think you deserve as an employee who has invested none of your money in the company and decided to join on a 6-figure salary only afte

Okay, but how much do you think you deserve as an employee who has invested none of your money in the company and decided to join on a 6-figure salary only after the company is already through YC, is funded by top investors and looks attractive? If you’re instantly replaceable by any dime-a-dozen engineer than can install packages on npm and use react components and add a thumbs up to slack messages…to not get accidentally rich because you just took a high paid tech job a year ago…seems fair? I just fail to see why everyone in the comments here believes they deserve to be compensated at the level of the top 0.01% of all people without starting their own business. Start your own company if you think it’s so easy to be a founder instead of an employee. Nobody is stopping you. I also think it’s some crazy cognitive dissonance to assume you’d be able to walk right into a FAANG sr. eng gig instead. As if most startup employees haven’t tried before joining [insert startup].

mawadev 1y ago
Thank you for your comment, it proves my point!
xvector 1y ago
> I just fail to see why everyone in the comments here believes they deserve to be compensated at the level of the top 0.01% of all people without starting their own business. No one is saying this. There is no question that the Windsurf and Scale AI ploys effectively left employees with ownership in the company high and dry. > but how much do you think you deserve as an employee You deserve what you are promised. If a founder says you will get rich if the company goes to the moon, and they instead do some strange maneuver so only they cash out, the founder is a scumbag. You are acting like early startup employees risk nothing working for a startup, and invest nothing of their own. Again, that is a weird assumption.
saagarjha 1y ago
Do you think founders deserve 100x more money because six weeks ago they sat in a few meetings with Y Combinator that went well?
- pembrook 1y ago
  If it’s so easy to do that instead (and if you think that’s how startups work), why the hell would you join as an early employee instead of starting your own company? Hint: it’s not as easy as you think.
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baq 1y ago
Being a founder is a job as much as being an engineer is and being an investor is - especially if you get investors early and don’t take debt to capitalize the company (which you shouldn’t if you like your life.) If you did take debt as a founder, don’t brag about your bad decisions as if they make you special.
bravesoul2 1y ago
Take the moralising out it. If I join a lottery syndicate and it wins 100m but I only put in 1% of the syndicate amount say $100 do I not deserve $1m because I'm just a "whatever I am just"???
- pembrook 1y ago
  You didn’t put anything in though, the lottery syndicate paid you to work as a janitor. And the point is the syndicate didnt win??
  - bravesoul2 1y ago
    You pay by getting 120k/y for 60hr week instead of 300k/y for 45hr week in Bay area. Pretty expensive.
ddddang 1y ago
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mawadev 1y ago

Thank you for your comment, it proves my point!

xvector 1y ago

> I just fail to see why everyone in the comments here believes they deserve to be compensated at the level of the top 0.01% of all people without starting their own business. No one is saying this. There is no question that the Windsurf and Scale AI ploys effectively left employees with ownership in the company high and dry. > but how much do you think you deserve as an employee You deserve what you are promised. If a founder says you will get rich if the company goes to the moon, and they instead do some strange maneuver so only they cash out, the founder is a scumbag. You are acting like early startup employees risk nothing working for a startup, and invest nothing of their own. Again, that is a weird assumption.

saagarjha 1y ago

Do you think founders deserve 100x more money because six weeks ago they sat in a few meetings with Y Combinator that went well?

pembrook 1y ago
If it’s so easy to do that instead (and if you think that’s how startups work), why the hell would you join as an early employee instead of starting your own company? Hint: it’s not as easy as you think.
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baq 1y ago

Being a founder is a job as much as being an engineer is and being an investor is - especially if you get investors early and don’t take debt to capitalize the company (which you shouldn’t if you like your life.) If you did take debt as a founder, don’t brag about your bad decisions as if they make you special.

bravesoul2 1y ago

Take the moralising out it. If I join a lottery syndicate and it wins 100m but I only put in 1% of the syndicate amount say $100 do I not deserve $1m because I'm just a "whatever I am just"???

pembrook 1y ago
You didn’t put anything in though, the lottery syndicate paid you to work as a janitor. And the point is the syndicate didnt win??
- bravesoul2 1y ago
  You pay by getting 120k/y for 60hr week instead of 300k/y for 45hr week in Bay area. Pretty expensive.

ddddang 1y ago

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