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Why didn't Biden release the Epstein files?

12 points by lr0 1y ago

bediger4000 1y ago
Oh, come on. Trump and His Base spent years bellyaching about Papadopoulos getting entirely justified surveillance. There was plenty of reasons including Trump inciting and armed revolt just before Biden took office. Can you imagine what kind of a storm releasing Epstein files would have caused Biden?
- unnamed76ri 1y ago
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msgodel 1y ago
It's obviously a MAD situation and everyone's in them. The whole point of Trump was to just steamroll over this sort of thing and ignore the criticism. To see him cowering from it is incredibly disappointing.
- cindyllm 1y ago
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- clipsy 1y ago
  > The whole point of Trump was to just steamroll over this sort of thing and ignore the criticism. Sorry, you've misunderstood: the whole point of Trump is to benefit Trump. Anyone else who benefits and any other positive outcomes are purely coincidental.
  - msgodel 1y ago
    Yes I meant from the voter's perspective obviously.
PaulHoule 1y ago
Didn't want to blow the lid off for a lot of people. Wasn't "out to get" Trump because if we was out to get Trump (or anybody important out to get Trump) he wouldn't have gotten away with Jan 6. Trump is in trouble because he promised a lot and didn't deliver and if he does deliver, his name is in those files.
- gsf_emergency_2 1y ago
  Faisal Islam: Tariffs are working https://old.reddit.com/r/BoycottUnitedStates/comments/1m7baza/faisal_islam_trumps_tough_tariff_tactics_is/ https://old.reddit.com/r/BoycottUnitedStates/comments/1m7baz... The hallmark of a positive sum framework is that it's more general or accurate than the author intended. (Not original I don't recall the source) (Gygax comes off as a proto-PG. Intention was for Joker to be "chaotic evil" but the implementation might have had other ideas. Maybe Joachim's Joker I would have his approval? ) In the case of Trump, it helps Japan to "turn far-right", which is also evil at face value. Silver lining not yet found, not by this commenter at least (Ps: Kipling & "good intentions" rhyme in my head. Need to take a page from you and sleep on all this before continuing) https://open.substack.com/pub/noahpinion/p/the-anti-immigration-backlash-comes?utm_source=direct&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=137702634 https://open.substack.com/pub/noahpinion/p/the-anti-immigrat...
  - PaulHoule 1y ago
    Part of the hard-right turn is that center left parties since 1990 have conceded to the Reagan-Thatcher-Merkel consensus that "we can't afford the welfare state" whereas hard right parties are saying "we can afford the welfare state if we throw out migrants" In the big picture though it really should be the world vs the New China and not the US vs the world. When Japan was beating us in cars in the 1980s we got them to build cars here. We should be getting China to build state-of-the-art factories here: the biggest advantage they have is that they build "lights out" factories that need hardly any human labor -- like a mushroom factory in Shanghai where they stack them up hundreds of feet high and only handle them with forklifts. Thankfully they are building one of those in Texas: https://mushroombusiness.com/news/finc-and-ocm-invest-in-us-growing-facility/ https://mushroombusiness.com/news/finc-and-ocm-invest-in-us-...
d00mB0t 1y ago
Excellent question.
- lastcat743 1y ago
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d00mB0t 1y ago
A better question is "Who was running the exploitation ring?" because it sure wasn't Epstein alone.
- duxup 1y ago
  Why not?
  - lastcat743 1y ago
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duxup 1y ago
Dude was dead and releasing the files just makes enemies. Not saying that’s ok, but the basic incentives seem apparent.
krapp 1y ago
For people who don't read the article, the answer as suggested in the article is that the FBI and the courts wouldn't allow it either for Biden or for Trump as releasing the evidence to the public would violate the privacy of witnesses and informants and might interfere in future investigations, even though no such investigations are forthcoming. Make of that what you will.

12 points by lr0 1y ago

Oh, come on. Trump and His Base spent years bellyaching about Papadopoulos getting entirely justified surveillance. There was plenty of reasons including Trump inciting and armed revolt just before Biden took office. Can you imagine what kind of a storm releasing Epstein files would have caused Biden?

unnamed76ri 1y ago
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msgodel 1y ago

It's obviously a MAD situation and everyone's in them. The whole point of Trump was to just steamroll over this sort of thing and ignore the criticism. To see him cowering from it is incredibly disappointing.

cindyllm 1y ago
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clipsy 1y ago
> The whole point of Trump was to just steamroll over this sort of thing and ignore the criticism. Sorry, you've misunderstood: the whole point of Trump is to benefit Trump. Anyone else who benefits and any other positive outcomes are purely coincidental.
- msgodel 1y ago
  Yes I meant from the voter's perspective obviously.

PaulHoule 1y ago

Didn't want to blow the lid off for a lot of people. Wasn't "out to get" Trump because if we was out to get Trump (or anybody important out to get Trump) he wouldn't have gotten away with Jan 6. Trump is in trouble because he promised a lot and didn't deliver and if he does deliver, his name is in those files.

gsf_emergency_2 1y ago
Faisal Islam: Tariffs are working https://old.reddit.com/r/BoycottUnitedStates/comments/1m7baza/faisal_islam_trumps_tough_tariff_tactics_is/ https://old.reddit.com/r/BoycottUnitedStates/comments/1m7baz... The hallmark of a positive sum framework is that it's more general or accurate than the author intended. (Not original I don't recall the source) (Gygax comes off as a proto-PG. Intention was for Joker to be "chaotic evil" but the implementation might have had other ideas. Maybe Joachim's Joker I would have his approval? ) In the case of Trump, it helps Japan to "turn far-right", which is also evil at face value. Silver lining not yet found, not by this commenter at least (Ps: Kipling & "good intentions" rhyme in my head. Need to take a page from you and sleep on all this before continuing) https://open.substack.com/pub/noahpinion/p/the-anti-immigration-backlash-comes?utm_source=direct&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=137702634 https://open.substack.com/pub/noahpinion/p/the-anti-immigrat...
- PaulHoule 1y ago
  Part of the hard-right turn is that center left parties since 1990 have conceded to the Reagan-Thatcher-Merkel consensus that "we can't afford the welfare state" whereas hard right parties are saying "we can afford the welfare state if we throw out migrants" In the big picture though it really should be the world vs the New China and not the US vs the world. When Japan was beating us in cars in the 1980s we got them to build cars here. We should be getting China to build state-of-the-art factories here: the biggest advantage they have is that they build "lights out" factories that need hardly any human labor -- like a mushroom factory in Shanghai where they stack them up hundreds of feet high and only handle them with forklifts. Thankfully they are building one of those in Texas: https://mushroombusiness.com/news/finc-and-ocm-invest-in-us-growing-facility/ https://mushroombusiness.com/news/finc-and-ocm-invest-in-us-...

d00mB0t 1y ago

Excellent question.

lastcat743 1y ago
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d00mB0t 1y ago

A better question is "Who was running the exploitation ring?" because it sure wasn't Epstein alone.

duxup 1y ago
Why not?
- lastcat743 1y ago
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duxup 1y ago

Dude was dead and releasing the files just makes enemies. Not saying that’s ok, but the basic incentives seem apparent.

krapp 1y ago

For people who don't read the article, the answer as suggested in the article is that the FBI and the courts wouldn't allow it either for Biden or for Trump as releasing the evidence to the public would violate the privacy of witnesses and informants and might interfere in future investigations, even though no such investigations are forthcoming. Make of that what you will.