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What is “normal development”? And doesn’t that describe the process, not the outcome? If the outcome is happiness, who knows who has it better?!

jojobas 1y ago
Such that doesn't see you infertile and dead by 30.
- kaonwarb 1y ago
  >Today, the average life expectancy of a person with Down syndrome is nearly 60 years and continuing to climb. (https://www.nationwidechildrens.org/family-resources-education/700childrens/2021/07/down-syndrome-life-expectancy https://www.nationwidechildrens.org/family-resources-educati...)
  - Supermancho 1y ago
    * for people who can afford healthcare in the USA
  - 542354234235 1y ago
    Life expectancy is 58 "in the 2010s" [1], which is over 19 lower than average life expectancy in the same time period. Two decades isn't exactly insignificant. [1] https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/adults-with-down-syndrome-health-system-unprepared/ https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/adults-with-down-synd...
UltraSane 1y ago
Normal development starts with having the normal number of chromosomes. I would think this is elementary biology.
- barbazoo 1y ago
  I think of it as more of a probability question. There is a much greater chance of a person having two copies of chromosome 21 instead of three. "Normal" often carries some form of judgement but I guess technically you are correct to use the word.
  - UltraSane 1y ago
    No. Having two copies of each chromosome is NORMAL. Having 3 is NOT normal. Being completely unwilling to make normative statements seems rather cowardly.
mathgeek 1y ago
While "what is normal" is a reasonable question, a normal development is certainly closer to something that allows folks to achieve most things in any career/hobby/pursuit they choose.
- smeej 1y ago
  Do you really see that as a "norm" being met by a majority of the population today? I don't think most people's lived experience is anything like that.
  - mathgeek 1y ago
    Normal being closer to what I said than what is usually achievable for folks with extra chromosomes? Yes, I do. I didn’t say it _was_ that anyone can achieve anything.

jojobas 1y ago

Such that doesn't see you infertile and dead by 30.

kaonwarb 1y ago
>Today, the average life expectancy of a person with Down syndrome is nearly 60 years and continuing to climb. (https://www.nationwidechildrens.org/family-resources-education/700childrens/2021/07/down-syndrome-life-expectancy https://www.nationwidechildrens.org/family-resources-educati...)
- Supermancho 1y ago
  * for people who can afford healthcare in the USA
- 542354234235 1y ago
  Life expectancy is 58 "in the 2010s" [1], which is over 19 lower than average life expectancy in the same time period. Two decades isn't exactly insignificant. [1] https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/adults-with-down-syndrome-health-system-unprepared/ https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/adults-with-down-synd...

UltraSane 1y ago

Normal development starts with having the normal number of chromosomes. I would think this is elementary biology.

barbazoo 1y ago
I think of it as more of a probability question. There is a much greater chance of a person having two copies of chromosome 21 instead of three. "Normal" often carries some form of judgement but I guess technically you are correct to use the word.
- UltraSane 1y ago
  No. Having two copies of each chromosome is NORMAL. Having 3 is NOT normal. Being completely unwilling to make normative statements seems rather cowardly.

mathgeek 1y ago

While "what is normal" is a reasonable question, a normal development is certainly closer to something that allows folks to achieve most things in any career/hobby/pursuit they choose.

smeej 1y ago
Do you really see that as a "norm" being met by a majority of the population today? I don't think most people's lived experience is anything like that.
- mathgeek 1y ago
  Normal being closer to what I said than what is usually achievable for folks with extra chromosomes? Yes, I do. I didn’t say it _was_ that anyone can achieve anything.