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Article on one possible effect of this: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/well/live/surgeons-hobbies-dexterity.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/well/li

Article on one possible effect of this: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/well/live/surgeons-hobbies-dexterity.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/well/live/surgeons-hobbie... This sort of thing is one argument for why northern European countries still have Sloyd woodworking in schools: https://rainfordrestorations.com/category/woodworking-techniques/sloyd/ https://rainfordrestorations.com/category/woodworking-techni... >Students may never pick up a tool again, but they will forever have the knowledge of how to make and evaluate things with your hand and your eye and appreciate the labor of others. Similarly, Maria Montessori's instruction method still seems valid --- interestingly, the blocks were described by one woodworker I knew as quite challenging to make because of the solid/density requirement and the overall size of the largest block. That said, why not extend touchscreens into the real world as was done with early versions of Logo? https://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/what_is_logo/history.html https://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/what_is_logo/histor...

ryoshu 1y ago
Montessori is great. Highly recommend it. In later years students get access to devices in the one I'm familiar with, but in the early formative years they still use the same old-school materials for learning shapes, objects, quantities, math, etc. They also teach cursive. The head of curriculum talks about how it unlocks different neural pathways. There was recent research that confirmed this.
- palindome 1y ago
  Went through Montessori growing up. Agree on this.
  - LorenPechtel 1y ago
    3 1/2 years of it myself (all they offered at the time), missed half a year (that half year was very educational but not in the formal sense, I do believe my parents made the right choice), returned to 5th grade at to well above grade level. I have never studied why it was considered superior, only that it was.
- NuclearPM 1y ago
  “They also teach cursive. The head of curriculum talks about how it unlocks different neural pathways. There was recent research that confirmed this.” Doesn’t all learning? This sounds like bullshit.
  - WillAdams 1y ago
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7399101/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7399101/
aaron695 1y ago
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theshrike79 1y ago
My kid's favourite toys were wooden blocks their grandpa made. Just 2x2" wood stock, cut into 2x2x2 and 2x2x4 cubes and sanded down. They became houses, roads, furniture and whatever. Some got painted. Parents _think_ kids need a bunch of fancy toys, but they really don't. They just need (literally) the building blocks of toys. Wood blocks, Lego (the old kind with square bricks, not the new ones where every piece is different).
- rightbyte 1y ago
  > Lego (the old kind with square bricks, not the new ones where every piece is different). I think Lego has cut back on strange almost unusable bricks lately? Or atleast those Bionicle type sets get less store space where I live.
  - WillAdams 1y ago
    Seems to be the case. Poster child for this would be the Space Shuttle/747 kit (which I kind of wish had gone back to the drawing board for a few more revisions.... but I'll probably get it anyway).
yencabulator 1y ago
For what it's worth, in the late 80s/early 90s Nordic schools did include Logo in the curriculum. I never saw a physical Logo turtle, but we programmed to move one on screen.

ryoshu 1y ago

Montessori is great. Highly recommend it. In later years students get access to devices in the one I'm familiar with, but in the early formative years they still use the same old-school materials for learning shapes, objects, quantities, math, etc. They also teach cursive. The head of curriculum talks about how it unlocks different neural pathways. There was recent research that confirmed this.

palindome 1y ago
Went through Montessori growing up. Agree on this.
- LorenPechtel 1y ago
  3 1/2 years of it myself (all they offered at the time), missed half a year (that half year was very educational but not in the formal sense, I do believe my parents made the right choice), returned to 5th grade at to well above grade level. I have never studied why it was considered superior, only that it was.
NuclearPM 1y ago
“They also teach cursive. The head of curriculum talks about how it unlocks different neural pathways. There was recent research that confirmed this.” Doesn’t all learning? This sounds like bullshit.
- WillAdams 1y ago
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7399101/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7399101/

aaron695 1y ago

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theshrike79 1y ago

My kid's favourite toys were wooden blocks their grandpa made. Just 2x2" wood stock, cut into 2x2x2 and 2x2x4 cubes and sanded down. They became houses, roads, furniture and whatever. Some got painted. Parents _think_ kids need a bunch of fancy toys, but they really don't. They just need (literally) the building blocks of toys. Wood blocks, Lego (the old kind with square bricks, not the new ones where every piece is different).

rightbyte 1y ago
> Lego (the old kind with square bricks, not the new ones where every piece is different). I think Lego has cut back on strange almost unusable bricks lately? Or atleast those Bionicle type sets get less store space where I live.
- WillAdams 1y ago
  Seems to be the case. Poster child for this would be the Space Shuttle/747 kit (which I kind of wish had gone back to the drawing board for a few more revisions.... but I'll probably get it anyway).

yencabulator 1y ago

For what it's worth, in the late 80s/early 90s Nordic schools did include Logo in the curriculum. I never saw a physical Logo turtle, but we programmed to move one on screen.