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What are UNESCO's "divisive cultural and social causes"?

cbeach 1y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44647349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44647349
GordonS 1y ago
UNESCO is against the US-backed Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people, and is against the theft of Palestinian land. That's it - they simply don't support murdering children.
- ignoramous 1y ago
  > UNESCO is against the US-backed Israeli genocide ... they simply don't support ... That means, per IHRA, UNESCO is anti-semitic. Makes sense as anti-semitism is a problem worth tearing all post WW2 diplomacy and institutions up.
miltonlost 1y ago
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supportengineer 1y ago
Compassion, intelligence, generosity
- duxup 1y ago
  Nobody hates god's children quite like the religious right in the US.
  - jzb 1y ago
    "Love the fetus, hate the mother and child"
    - nerdjon 1y ago
      I can't find the exact saying now, but my favorite are the ones that are basically... "Will fight for your rights until your born and then just completely abandon you" (not the exact phrasing I remember seeing)
      - slantedview 1y ago
        Pro birth, not pro life.
    - duxup 1y ago
      Recently I saw a vehicle with a "you are loved" sticker on it, jesus fish, and then a whole series of stickers that describe when they would like to commit violent acts against the reader if they did or said things the owner doesn't like. It really seemed to fit the atmosphere around those folks these days.
      - leptons 1y ago
        It's called "cognitive dissonance" and they've been practicing it for a very long time.
- DSingularity 1y ago
  You forgot standing up for justice. All those refugees and their children have a right to return.
BLKNSLVR 1y ago
Something something don't launch missiles across sovereign nation borders something avoid blocking food aid something. The ramblings of the anti-war set...
- deleted 1y ago
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jabjq 1y ago
You can check the UNESCO website and see for yourself. They have a section with recent news of stuff they’ve been doing and promoting.
jccalhoun 1y ago
Not bending the knee to Trump.
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Maken 1y ago
They say it very clearly: acknowledgeing Palestinians exist.
- Veen 1y ago
  You can acknowledge Palestinians exist without giving the terrorist Palestinian state equal status with other members of the community of nations.
  - DSingularity 1y ago
    The Israeli state was literally founded by terrorists. The leaders of those terrorist organizations were the first leaders of Israeli prime ministers and secretaries of war and so on.
    - ngruhn 1y ago
      What are you talking about? There's plenty to criticize Israel for but this is just hyperbolic nonsense.
      - SadTrombone 1y ago
        How so? It's common knowledge that the nascent IDF absorbed terrorist organizations like the Irgun and Lehi into their ranks and gave them autonomy to operate as they had been. Leaders of these terrorist organizations went on to join the highest ranks of Israeli leadership. David Ben-Gurion being one of many (his Haganah cooperated closely with the Irgun and Lehi as they committed kidnappings, bombings and murders). This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's widely documented by respectable historians.
        MPSFounder 1y ago
        That is true. Not sure why you are being downvoted. In fact, many of their victims were British citizens since it was under English mandate. It is impossible to reason with Israel apologists, for they are genocidal actors. It is what one would expect.
freeone3000 1y ago
The recognition and admittance of the State of Palestine.
thaumasiotes 1y ago
The announcement calls out two things, admission of Palestine as a member state and the Sustainable Development Goals. The Goals are defined here: https://sdgs.un.org/goals https://sdgs.un.org/goals > Target 1.4: By 2030, ensure that all men and women, in particular the poor and the vulnerable, have equal rights to economic resources, as well as access to basic services, ownership and control over land and other forms of property, inheritance, natural resources, appropriate new technology, and financial services > Indicator 1.4.2: Proportion of total adult population with secure tenure rights to land [...] [This goal seems to state that poor people should own just as much land as rich people. That's insane, but even ignoring that, the goal definitely states that renting is evil and everyone needs to own.] > Target 1.b: Create sound policy frameworks at the national, regional and international levels, based on pro-poor and gender-sensitive development strategies, to support accelerated investment in poverty eradication actions > Target 3.5: Strengthen the prevention and treatment of substance abuse, including narcotic drug abuse and harmful use of alcohol > Indicator 3.5.1: Alcohol per capita consumption (aged 15 years and older) within a calendar year in litres of pure alcohol [In other words, the UN considers itself to be achieving this goal if people drink less alcohol than they used to. There is no indicator for problems caused by substance abuse.] > Target 3.7: By 2030, ensure universal access to sexual and reproductive health-care services, including for family planning, information, and education, and the integration of reproductive health into national strategies and programmes > Target 3.8: Achieve universal health coverage, including [...] > Target 4.1: By 2030, ensure that all girls and boys complete free, equitable and quality primary and secondary education [...] > Target 4.2: By 2030, ensure that all girls and boys have access to quality early childhood development, care and pre-primary education so that they are ready for primary education > Target 4.5: By 2030, eliminate gender disparities in education and ensure equal access to all levels of education and vocational training for the vulnerable, including persons with disabilities, indigenous peoples and children in vulnerable situations > Indicator 4.5.1: Parity indices (female/male, rural/urban, bottom/top wealth quintile and others such as disability status, indigenous peoples and conflict-affected, as data become available) for all education indicators on this list > Target 4.7: By 2030, ensure that all learners acquire the knowledge and skills needed to promote sustainable development, including, among others, through education for sustainable development and sustainable lifestyles, human rights, gender equality, promotion of a culture of peace and non-violence, global citizenship and appreciation of cultural diversity and of culture's contribution to sustainable development > Target 4.a: Build and upgrade education facilities that are child, disability and gender sensitive [...] > Target 10.3: Ensure equal opportunity and reduce inequalities of outcome [...] > Target 10.4: Adopt policies, especially fiscal, wage, and social protection policies, and progressively achieve greater equality > Target 10.a: [we're still on the goal "reduce inequality"] Implement the principle of special and differential treatment for developing countries [...] > Target 9.2: Promote inclusive and sustainable industrialization and, by 2030, significantly raise industry's share of employment and gross domestic product [If they really mean this, I'll admit that it swings the opposite way from what I would have expected. I have a suspicion that they don't want this to happen in developed countries. The indicators don't disambiguate. Either way it's a divisive cause.] > Goal 13: Take urgent action to combat climate change > Target 12.2: By 2030, achieve the sustainable management and efficient use of natural resources > Indicator 12.2.1: Material footprint, material footprint per capita, and material footprint per GDP ["We want people to have less stuff."] > Indicator 12.2.2: Domestic material consumption, domestic material consumption per capita, and domestic material consumption per GDP ["We want people to have less stuff."] > Target 14.5: By 2020, conserve at least 10 per cent of coastal and marine areas > Target 16.b: Promote and enforce non-discriminatory laws and policies for sustainable development > Indicator 16.b.1: Proportion of population reporting having personally felt discriminated against or harassed in the previous 12 months I wouldn't call this an ideologically neutral set of goals, no. Target 16.1 seems fine, though I'm a little surprised they didn't use the "By 2030, end all [...]" phrasing.
CGMthrowaway 1y ago
If I had to guess (putting on a hat I don't usually wear): Recognition of Palestine as a member state; resolutions referring to certain contested sites (e.g., Jerusalem's Old City, Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif) primarily using their Arabic names; promotion of gender equality and LGBTQ+ rights, as well as support for comprehensive sexuality education (CSE) programs; emphasis on climate change action, including its designation of World Heritage Sites at risk due to global warming; alignment with the UN’s 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development (specifically SDGs related to gender, education, and environmental goals); and advocacy for internet governance initiatives

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44647349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44647349

UNESCO is against the US-backed Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people, and is against the theft of Palestinian land. That's it - they simply don't support murdering children.

ignoramous 1y ago
> UNESCO is against the US-backed Israeli genocide ... they simply don't support ... That means, per IHRA, UNESCO is anti-semitic. Makes sense as anti-semitism is a problem worth tearing all post WW2 diplomacy and institutions up.

miltonlost 1y ago

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supportengineer 1y ago

Compassion, intelligence, generosity

duxup 1y ago
Nobody hates god's children quite like the religious right in the US.
- jzb 1y ago
  "Love the fetus, hate the mother and child"
  - nerdjon 1y ago
    I can't find the exact saying now, but my favorite are the ones that are basically... "Will fight for your rights until your born and then just completely abandon you" (not the exact phrasing I remember seeing)
    - slantedview 1y ago
      Pro birth, not pro life.
  - duxup 1y ago
    Recently I saw a vehicle with a "you are loved" sticker on it, jesus fish, and then a whole series of stickers that describe when they would like to commit violent acts against the reader if they did or said things the owner doesn't like. It really seemed to fit the atmosphere around those folks these days.
    - leptons 1y ago
      It's called "cognitive dissonance" and they've been practicing it for a very long time.
DSingularity 1y ago
You forgot standing up for justice. All those refugees and their children have a right to return.

BLKNSLVR 1y ago

Something something don't launch missiles across sovereign nation borders something avoid blocking food aid something. The ramblings of the anti-war set...

deleted 1y ago
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jabjq 1y ago

You can check the UNESCO website and see for yourself. They have a section with recent news of stuff they’ve been doing and promoting.

jccalhoun 1y ago

Not bending the knee to Trump.

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Maken 1y ago

They say it very clearly: acknowledgeing Palestinians exist.

Veen 1y ago
You can acknowledge Palestinians exist without giving the terrorist Palestinian state equal status with other members of the community of nations.
- DSingularity 1y ago
  The Israeli state was literally founded by terrorists. The leaders of those terrorist organizations were the first leaders of Israeli prime ministers and secretaries of war and so on.
  - ngruhn 1y ago
    What are you talking about? There's plenty to criticize Israel for but this is just hyperbolic nonsense.
    - SadTrombone 1y ago
      How so? It's common knowledge that the nascent IDF absorbed terrorist organizations like the Irgun and Lehi into their ranks and gave them autonomy to operate as they had been. Leaders of these terrorist organizations went on to join the highest ranks of Israeli leadership. David Ben-Gurion being one of many (his Haganah cooperated closely with the Irgun and Lehi as they committed kidnappings, bombings and murders). This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's widely documented by respectable historians.
      - MPSFounder 1y ago
        That is true. Not sure why you are being downvoted. In fact, many of their victims were British citizens since it was under English mandate. It is impossible to reason with Israel apologists, for they are genocidal actors. It is what one would expect.

freeone3000 1y ago

The recognition and admittance of the State of Palestine.

thaumasiotes 1y ago

The announcement calls out two things, admission of Palestine as a member state and the Sustainable Development Goals. The Goals are defined here: https://sdgs.un.org/goals https://sdgs.un.org/goals > Target 1.4: By 2030, ensure that all men and women, in particular the poor and the vulnerable, have equal rights to economic resources, as well as access to basic services, ownership and control over land and other forms of property, inheritance, natural resources, appropriate new technology, and financial services > Indicator 1.4.2: Proportion of total adult population with secure tenure rights to land [...] [This goal seems to state that poor people should own just as much land as rich people. That's insane, but even ignoring that, the goal definitely states that renting is evil and everyone needs to own.] > Target 1.b: Create sound policy frameworks at the national, regional and international levels, based on pro-poor and gender-sensitive development strategies, to support accelerated investment in poverty eradication actions > Target 3.5: Strengthen the prevention and treatment of substance abuse, including narcotic drug abuse and harmful use of alcohol > Indicator 3.5.1: Alcohol per capita consumption (aged 15 years and older) within a calendar year in litres of pure alcohol [In other words, the UN considers itself to be achieving this goal if people drink less alcohol than they used to. There is no indicator for problems caused by substance abuse.] > Target 3.7: By 2030, ensure universal access to sexual and reproductive health-care services, including for family planning, information, and education, and the integration of reproductive health into national strategies and programmes > Target 3.8: Achieve universal health coverage, including [...] > Target 4.1: By 2030, ensure that all girls and boys complete free, equitable and quality primary and secondary education [...] > Target 4.2: By 2030, ensure that all girls and boys have access to quality early childhood development, care and pre-primary education so that they are ready for primary education > Target 4.5: By 2030, eliminate gender disparities in education and ensure equal access to all levels of education and vocational training for the vulnerable, including persons with disabilities, indigenous peoples and children in vulnerable situations > Indicator 4.5.1: Parity indices (female/male, rural/urban, bottom/top wealth quintile and others such as disability status, indigenous peoples and conflict-affected, as data become available) for all education indicators on this list > Target 4.7: By 2030, ensure that all learners acquire the knowledge and skills needed to promote sustainable development, including, among others, through education for sustainable development and sustainable lifestyles, human rights, gender equality, promotion of a culture of peace and non-violence, global citizenship and appreciation of cultural diversity and of culture's contribution to sustainable development > Target 4.a: Build and upgrade education facilities that are child, disability and gender sensitive [...] > Target 10.3: Ensure equal opportunity and reduce inequalities of outcome [...] > Target 10.4: Adopt policies, especially fiscal, wage, and social protection policies, and progressively achieve greater equality > Target 10.a: [we're still on the goal "reduce inequality"] Implement the principle of special and differential treatment for developing countries [...] > Target 9.2: Promote inclusive and sustainable industrialization and, by 2030, significantly raise industry's share of employment and gross domestic product [If they really mean this, I'll admit that it swings the opposite way from what I would have expected. I have a suspicion that they don't want this to happen in developed countries. The indicators don't disambiguate. Either way it's a divisive cause.] > Goal 13: Take urgent action to combat climate change > Target 12.2: By 2030, achieve the sustainable management and efficient use of natural resources > Indicator 12.2.1: Material footprint, material footprint per capita, and material footprint per GDP ["We want people to have less stuff."] > Indicator 12.2.2: Domestic material consumption, domestic material consumption per capita, and domestic material consumption per GDP ["We want people to have less stuff."] > Target 14.5: By 2020, conserve at least 10 per cent of coastal and marine areas > Target 16.b: Promote and enforce non-discriminatory laws and policies for sustainable development > Indicator 16.b.1: Proportion of population reporting having personally felt discriminated against or harassed in the previous 12 months I wouldn't call this an ideologically neutral set of goals, no. Target 16.1 seems fine, though I'm a little surprised they didn't use the "By 2030, end all [...]" phrasing.

CGMthrowaway 1y ago

If I had to guess (putting on a hat I don't usually wear): Recognition of Palestine as a member state; resolutions referring to certain contested sites (e.g., Jerusalem's Old City, Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif) primarily using their Arabic names; promotion of gender equality and LGBTQ+ rights, as well as support for comprehensive sexuality education (CSE) programs; emphasis on climate change action, including its designation of World Heritage Sites at risk due to global warming; alignment with the UN’s 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development (specifically SDGs related to gender, education, and environmental goals); and advocacy for internet governance initiatives