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>I've never felt impeded by loading speeds I honestly think it's just something people here like to complain about. It's a complete non-issue. No everyday web

>I've never felt impeded by loading speeds I honestly think it's just something people here like to complain about. It's a complete non-issue. No everyday web experience is even close to being noticeably different. Full stop. It's almost like a meme, people say it because they think they should say it. I would ask those people that are complaining, what are you doing with all those extra milliseconds you claim you're saving?

TedDoesntTalk 1y ago
> what are you doing with all those extra milliseconds you claim you're saving? Watching more ads.
rs186 1y ago
When you have web pages that that completely freeze the Firefox browser but work smoothly on Chrome, you won't call it non-issue.
- disgruntledphd2 1y ago
  This doesn't seem to happen to me anymore, certainly not since Quantum. Your experience may obviously differ. I've been running FF for like twenty years now, across Windows, Linux and Mac.
- lillecarl 1y ago
  I don't know why I should lower my browsing standards to a Chrome experience because a small percentage of websites work poorly in Firefox. My password manager works in all browsers so I have Chrome with only PW manager and uBlock Lite so I can use it for the ONE website I use that doesn't work in FF. I don't think it's frustrating to press Ctrl+L, Ctrl+C, $launcher-bind(Meta+D), Ctrl+L, Ctrl+V, Enter to open another browser. My average experience is a lot better with Firefox and that's what I optimize for.
- hunter-gatherer 1y ago
  I have been on Firefox for some years now on Mac, Linux, Windows, and Android. Last year the IRS website had some issues, but that seems to be resolved. Otherwise, I've had zero breakages that cone to mind. I use ublock origin, and pivacy badger, and a few other extensions. I wonder if sometimes the issues people experience with firefox are actually caused from their extensions??? If you haven't used Firefox in a minute, I recommend trying it oht again.
- thinkingtoilet 1y ago
  Name one.
  - xboxnolifes 1y ago
    Youtube will after a while.
    - brooke2k 1y ago
      I use youtube a worrying amount, all through firefox (and I am also an ADHD 1000 tabs open person), and I have never had this experience across multiple computers.
      - rererereferred 1y ago
        Youtube freezes for me on Windows with Firefox. Sometimes it freezes the whole browser so added a rule to block it in uBo and use another browser for it (which also helps me reduce my time on youtube thanks to the added friction). I don't know if its an issue with my specific hardware or what. In Mac and Linux (different PC) it works fine.
        thinkingtoilet 1y ago
        You're using an add-on that blocks core functionality. That is not Firefox's fault.
        rererereferred 1y ago
        I'm blocking it to avoid it freezing the browser. Before I blocked it, it froze the browser.
      - xboxnolifes 1y ago
        You need to keep the same youtube tab open and navigate the website a considerable amount on it for it to occur. I use the same tabs repeatedly, and by the end of the day I get an incredibly sluggish site. Not the end of the world, since I just close the tab and start a new one, but it does exist. Firefox has had documented issues with youtube for the better part of a decade at least.
- kjkjadksj 1y ago
  Lets see one then
the__alchemist 1y ago
I can't answer your question directly, as I haven't experienced Firefox problems in a few years. In the past, I experienced regular hangs and crashes. There are a few point to unpacck here: - Qualifying a statement with "Full stop" is a thought-terminating cliche. - Due to the different hardware, operating systems, and use cases people have, peoples' experience, and the problems they encounter vary between users of PC software. - Milliseconds as overhead to startup may be irrelevant. Ms in most computing contexts is a timescale to be concerned with, as it's relevant for latency, cumulative operations, and responsiveness.
- IAmBroom 1y ago
  This isn't "most computing contexts", so that point is irrelevant. You've already admitted the point "may be" irrelevant (it is), so why bring it up.
- wing-_-nuts 1y ago
  > - Qualifying a statement with "Full stop" is a thought-terminating cliche. Yeah, well I like it. Full stop.
- thinkingtoilet 1y ago
  I've used Firefox with on Windows, iOS, and various linux distributions with absolutely no day to day issues.
dewarrn1 1y ago
Yes, it's the Firefox version of Python's GIL.

TedDoesntTalk 1y ago

> what are you doing with all those extra milliseconds you claim you're saving? Watching more ads.

rs186 1y ago

When you have web pages that that completely freeze the Firefox browser but work smoothly on Chrome, you won't call it non-issue.

disgruntledphd2 1y ago
This doesn't seem to happen to me anymore, certainly not since Quantum. Your experience may obviously differ. I've been running FF for like twenty years now, across Windows, Linux and Mac.
lillecarl 1y ago
I don't know why I should lower my browsing standards to a Chrome experience because a small percentage of websites work poorly in Firefox. My password manager works in all browsers so I have Chrome with only PW manager and uBlock Lite so I can use it for the ONE website I use that doesn't work in FF. I don't think it's frustrating to press Ctrl+L, Ctrl+C, $launcher-bind(Meta+D), Ctrl+L, Ctrl+V, Enter to open another browser. My average experience is a lot better with Firefox and that's what I optimize for.
hunter-gatherer 1y ago
I have been on Firefox for some years now on Mac, Linux, Windows, and Android. Last year the IRS website had some issues, but that seems to be resolved. Otherwise, I've had zero breakages that cone to mind. I use ublock origin, and pivacy badger, and a few other extensions. I wonder if sometimes the issues people experience with firefox are actually caused from their extensions??? If you haven't used Firefox in a minute, I recommend trying it oht again.
thinkingtoilet 1y ago
Name one.
- xboxnolifes 1y ago
  Youtube will after a while.
  - brooke2k 1y ago
    I use youtube a worrying amount, all through firefox (and I am also an ADHD 1000 tabs open person), and I have never had this experience across multiple computers.
    - rererereferred 1y ago
      Youtube freezes for me on Windows with Firefox. Sometimes it freezes the whole browser so added a rule to block it in uBo and use another browser for it (which also helps me reduce my time on youtube thanks to the added friction). I don't know if its an issue with my specific hardware or what. In Mac and Linux (different PC) it works fine.
      - thinkingtoilet 1y ago
        You're using an add-on that blocks core functionality. That is not Firefox's fault.
        rererereferred 1y ago
        I'm blocking it to avoid it freezing the browser. Before I blocked it, it froze the browser.
    - xboxnolifes 1y ago
      You need to keep the same youtube tab open and navigate the website a considerable amount on it for it to occur. I use the same tabs repeatedly, and by the end of the day I get an incredibly sluggish site. Not the end of the world, since I just close the tab and start a new one, but it does exist. Firefox has had documented issues with youtube for the better part of a decade at least.
kjkjadksj 1y ago
Lets see one then

the__alchemist 1y ago

I can't answer your question directly, as I haven't experienced Firefox problems in a few years. In the past, I experienced regular hangs and crashes. There are a few point to unpacck here: - Qualifying a statement with "Full stop" is a thought-terminating cliche. - Due to the different hardware, operating systems, and use cases people have, peoples' experience, and the problems they encounter vary between users of PC software. - Milliseconds as overhead to startup may be irrelevant. Ms in most computing contexts is a timescale to be concerned with, as it's relevant for latency, cumulative operations, and responsiveness.

IAmBroom 1y ago
This isn't "most computing contexts", so that point is irrelevant. You've already admitted the point "may be" irrelevant (it is), so why bring it up.
wing-_-nuts 1y ago
> - Qualifying a statement with "Full stop" is a thought-terminating cliche. Yeah, well I like it. Full stop.
thinkingtoilet 1y ago
I've used Firefox with on Windows, iOS, and various linux distributions with absolutely no day to day issues.

dewarrn1 1y ago

Yes, it's the Firefox version of Python's GIL.