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But you agree the quote I responded to was incorrect, right?

elashri 1y ago
Orion is based on WebKit, that's usually what people mean when they say it is all safari. So it is technically correct but orion approach ia to try to implement web extensions API in WebKit. Otherwise, apple wouldn't have allowed orion on App Store because the requirement is not to use any other engines (holding off to see what EU DMA effect would have).
cwillu 1y ago
You agree that your statement that it runs firefox extensions is misleading, right? If I said “linux runs windows software and games” without further remarks, people would be correct to call me out on it.
- thoroughburro 1y ago
  No, I don’t agree. And Linux does run Windows software and games; I use this ability all the time. Are there really people who read that and think “ALL Windows software and games” is implied? Bizarre to me.
  - rwc 1y ago
    Yes. If you say you’re compatible with Windows software and games, my expectation as a user is that everything “just works”.
    - thoroughburro 1y ago
      You changed the phrase from “runs Windows software and games” to “compatible with Windows software and games”. I’m talking about the former phrase. The latter does imply more, but I didn’t say it; you did.
      - sshine 1y ago
        You're arguing about average assumptions. Your biases are leaning in different directions. Running Windows software on Linux requires a bit of domain knowledge; e.g. Wine, Lutris, Proton. E.g. which software actually works really well, which software works with tweaks, and which software largely works but you need to avoid certain features. The fact that you need to install special software, and it isn't some core OS compatibility layer like 32-bit support makes it lean towards "runs Windows software and games" being a little ambitious. It's not a perfect user story, that's all.
    - homebrewer 1y ago
      By your definition, Windows is not compatible with Windows.
      - echoangle 1y ago
        Yes, some windows versions aren’t compatible with other windows versions. That’s not a contradiction.
  - treyd 1y ago
    If you wrote a function in a dynamically typed language and the documentation said "this accepts integers", but actually it crashed if you gave a prime integer and you only expected people to give it composite integers, people would say that the documentation was inaccurate.
  - echelon 1y ago
    It doesn't even matter if you're right. 0.0001% of users will use this. It's a non-starter. The only solution to this problem is antitrust enforcement against Google.
dleeftink 1y ago
Not op, but you cannot fault the author for not knowing every app or trend. With any luck, your reply will inform the original author, who may learn a thing or two from the discussion we are having here!

Orion is based on WebKit, that's usually what people mean when they say it is all safari. So it is technically correct but orion approach ia to try to implement web extensions API in WebKit. Otherwise, apple wouldn't have allowed orion on App Store because the requirement is not to use any other engines (holding off to see what EU DMA effect would have).

cwillu 1y ago

You agree that your statement that it runs firefox extensions is misleading, right? If I said “linux runs windows software and games” without further remarks, people would be correct to call me out on it.

thoroughburro 1y ago
No, I don’t agree. And Linux does run Windows software and games; I use this ability all the time. Are there really people who read that and think “ALL Windows software and games” is implied? Bizarre to me.
- rwc 1y ago
  Yes. If you say you’re compatible with Windows software and games, my expectation as a user is that everything “just works”.
  - thoroughburro 1y ago
    You changed the phrase from “runs Windows software and games” to “compatible with Windows software and games”. I’m talking about the former phrase. The latter does imply more, but I didn’t say it; you did.
    - sshine 1y ago
      You're arguing about average assumptions. Your biases are leaning in different directions. Running Windows software on Linux requires a bit of domain knowledge; e.g. Wine, Lutris, Proton. E.g. which software actually works really well, which software works with tweaks, and which software largely works but you need to avoid certain features. The fact that you need to install special software, and it isn't some core OS compatibility layer like 32-bit support makes it lean towards "runs Windows software and games" being a little ambitious. It's not a perfect user story, that's all.
  - homebrewer 1y ago
    By your definition, Windows is not compatible with Windows.
    - echoangle 1y ago
      Yes, some windows versions aren’t compatible with other windows versions. That’s not a contradiction.
- treyd 1y ago
  If you wrote a function in a dynamically typed language and the documentation said "this accepts integers", but actually it crashed if you gave a prime integer and you only expected people to give it composite integers, people would say that the documentation was inaccurate.
- echelon 1y ago
  It doesn't even matter if you're right. 0.0001% of users will use this. It's a non-starter. The only solution to this problem is antitrust enforcement against Google.

dleeftink 1y ago

Not op, but you cannot fault the author for not knowing every app or trend. With any luck, your reply will inform the original author, who may learn a thing or two from the discussion we are having here!