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In this case, he died after being removed from the machine and taken to a hospital. The damage was likely done almost immediately; a heavy 20 pound "necklace"

In this case, he died after being removed from the machine and taken to a hospital. The damage was likely done almost immediately; a heavy 20 pound "necklace" is going to apply a lot of crushing force.

Filligree 1y ago
And for the other readers: It wouldn’t be applying twenty pounds of force, it would be applying… My rule of thumb calculation came to 3,000 lbf, which seems like a lot, but perhaps that’s actually accurate.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  Seems spot on to me. Figure half that to start since most of the loop is gonna wind up laying flat and only the half of it is prevented from doing so by one's neck. Then maybe cut it by 2/3 again since the sides aren't gonna do a ton of direct squishing. That still leaves you with hundreds of pounds, which roughly aligns with the timeline of suffocation in the article High hundreds low thousand likely would be neck snapping or otherwise instantly incapacitating.
Doxin 1y ago
> The damage was likely done almost immediately; Not disagreeing, just saying the tech running the machine couldn't have known that and should have quenched the machine in case the damage was survivable.
- mvdtnz 1y ago
  Right. You - a person who wasn't there, has had no training, has seen no photos and doesn't understand any of the details of the circumstance - are certainly better positioned to know that than the trained staff who were present.
  - Aeolun 1y ago
    The article says 1hr before it was turned off. That’s long enough to start questioning.
    - mvdtnz 1y ago
      The person I was replying to wasn't asking questions. He specifically said the operator "should have" quenched the machine. He's just another comment section expert.
      - Doxin 1y ago
        I was giving my opinion. I've never claimed to be an expert in anything.
        lillecarl 1y ago
        You don't have to voice your opinion just because you have one, if you're an expert people might want to hear what you have to say but otherwise you're just padding the comments with slop.
    - egberts1 1y ago
      Magnet is ALWAYS ON, 24/7. Until that big red emergency button gets pressed to the tune of $25,000 to $50,000 each time (couple that with 1-2 weeks downtime and a messed up scheduled for 1,000 of patients.
kjkjadksj 1y ago
Apparently he was lucid and speaking for some time before he passed out.
- egberts1 1y ago
  Good for 15 seconds ... after releasing your futile grip to free yourself by the virtue of circulation to the brain.
egberts1 1y ago
Damage was mostly done at wall impact after distance-square acceleration, not just the slamming against the wall but 1.2 Tera-gauss force inches away from superconducting magnet coil applied at least 3,200 lbs/ft forces on the 20lb gold chain crushing nearly everything on the poor victim's neck, artery, veins, tendons, muscle ... beyond any possible surgical repair.

Filligree 1y ago

And for the other readers: It wouldn’t be applying twenty pounds of force, it would be applying… My rule of thumb calculation came to 3,000 lbf, which seems like a lot, but perhaps that’s actually accurate.

potato3732842 1y ago
Seems spot on to me. Figure half that to start since most of the loop is gonna wind up laying flat and only the half of it is prevented from doing so by one's neck. Then maybe cut it by 2/3 again since the sides aren't gonna do a ton of direct squishing. That still leaves you with hundreds of pounds, which roughly aligns with the timeline of suffocation in the article High hundreds low thousand likely would be neck snapping or otherwise instantly incapacitating.

Doxin 1y ago

> The damage was likely done almost immediately; Not disagreeing, just saying the tech running the machine couldn't have known that and should have quenched the machine in case the damage was survivable.

mvdtnz 1y ago
Right. You - a person who wasn't there, has had no training, has seen no photos and doesn't understand any of the details of the circumstance - are certainly better positioned to know that than the trained staff who were present.
- Aeolun 1y ago
  The article says 1hr before it was turned off. That’s long enough to start questioning.
  - mvdtnz 1y ago
    The person I was replying to wasn't asking questions. He specifically said the operator "should have" quenched the machine. He's just another comment section expert.
    - Doxin 1y ago
      I was giving my opinion. I've never claimed to be an expert in anything.
      - lillecarl 1y ago
        You don't have to voice your opinion just because you have one, if you're an expert people might want to hear what you have to say but otherwise you're just padding the comments with slop.
  - egberts1 1y ago
    Magnet is ALWAYS ON, 24/7. Until that big red emergency button gets pressed to the tune of $25,000 to $50,000 each time (couple that with 1-2 weeks downtime and a messed up scheduled for 1,000 of patients.

kjkjadksj 1y ago

Apparently he was lucid and speaking for some time before he passed out.

egberts1 1y ago
Good for 15 seconds ... after releasing your futile grip to free yourself by the virtue of circulation to the brain.

egberts1 1y ago

Damage was mostly done at wall impact after distance-square acceleration, not just the slamming against the wall but 1.2 Tera-gauss force inches away from superconducting magnet coil applied at least 3,200 lbs/ft forces on the 20lb gold chain crushing nearly everything on the poor victim's neck, artery, veins, tendons, muscle ... beyond any possible surgical repair.