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To answer the questions the first commenters already have but didn't bother to search for: the accusation is « altération du fonctionnement d’un système de trai

• piker 1y ago
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  • aredox 1y ago
    Sorry for using French words here. Apparently there is no automated translation available anywhere on the internet. Nor does it seems possible to search "X enquete france" on any search engine to find more details.
    • piker 1y ago
      "You're all too lazy to read the French words." "Here I've copied and pasted the French words, also you're lazy." is exactly the type of sentiment that makes zero sense.
      • aredox 1y ago
        >Doesn't like the nanny state >wants me to hold his hand and LMGTFY
• williamdclt 1y ago
  These are hard to translate as they're so long-winded, here's a try > altération du fonctionnement d’un système de traitement automatisé de données en bande organisée Alteration/manipulation of a data processing system by an organised group of people. > extraction frauduleuse de données d’un système de traitement automatisé de données en bande organisée Fraudulent data extraction from a data processing system "organised group of people" is terrible translation, it means it's in the realm of organised crime.
  • rawling 1y ago
    Isn't this within the context of hacking a system, rather than making changes to a system you yourself own?
    • williamdclt 1y ago
      I don't have any particular legal understanding, but yeah that's my understanding too.
    • byroot 1y ago
      From: https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2025/02/07/le-parquet-de-paris-ouvre-une-enquete-sur-les-algorithmes-du-reseau-social-x_6536320_4408996.html https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2025/02/07/le-parquet-... Deepl translation of the relevant part: > At the heart of this investigation lies a legal innovation. Mr. Bothorel's alert is largely based on a recent analysis published on February 6 by legal scholar and law professor Michel Séjean. In the specialist journal Dalloz, he argues that under French law, distorting the operation of a recommendation algorithm on a social network can be punishable by the same penalties as computer hacking. According to this analysis, manipulating a platform's algorithm without the users' knowledge would be punishable under Article 323-2 of the French Penal Code, which punishes “hindering or distorting the operation of an automated data processing system”.
      • rawling 1y ago
        Thanks for the context. (Machine translation also) > Obstructing or distorting the operation of an automated data processing system is punishable by five years' imprisonment and a fine of €150,000. I would be really worried if that got applied to people working on systems they own. Take it down because of an issue? Obstruction. Make a change? Distortion.
        • byroot 1y ago
          No need to be worried about that. French law (like most others I presume?) is all about intent. e.g. to be convicted of trespassing, it has to be proven you knew you were trespassing, or at least that you reasonably should have known. So no, you wouldn't be convicted because you accidentally took down your own system, etc. At the end of the day, regardless of whether the letter of the law will allow it or not, what is clearly being investigated here, is a supposed (and somewhat documented) intent at influencing the French people through a distortion of the Twitter/X algorithm. Until now, all the "social media" platforms have essentially been regulated like hosting services, under the assumption that they have a fairly neutral stance toward the content they host. Hence they're not directly held responsible for what they display. But if it turns out their algorithms aren't so neutral, it begs the question of whether they should be regulated like legacy medias, hence be held responsible for what they publish.