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My process control theory textbook has a chapter on neural networks and a lot of the language in control theory has an AI like tinge to it. I think this AI lang
by cactusfrog 1y ago
My process control theory textbook has a chapter on neural networks and a lot of the language in control theory has an AI like tinge to it. I think this AI language is native to control theory so it might not be as overblown as it first sounds.
- Onavo 1y agoI mean yes, that's what reinforcement learning is.
- raxxorraxor 1y agoI always thought my software PID controller with 512kb main memory is quite smart. Pure AI in my opinion.
- eru 1y agoThat's quite a lot of memory for a little PID controller, isn't it? But I guess these days, they already only cost pennies, so you wouldn't save much from going for even less memory?
- raxxorraxor 1y agoIt is a serious PID controller using an intelligent AI ringbuffer. But yeah, 512kb was probably vastly exaggerated... 512 bytes is probably enough :)
- fourthark 1y agoA thermostat is a cybernetic device.
- Hackbraten 1y agoSo we need both AI and Kubernetes.
- romantomjak 1y agoIndependently scale and deploy fridges at edge. Fridge@Edge ™
- moffkalast 1y agoSuck it, Jian Yang
- Incipient 1y agoEdge devices are problematic. I want to outsource the risk and decrease capex (and just hope opex works out). CloudFridge.
- throwaway915 1y agoCloud involves losing sovereignty of data. And rabbits. Local Automated Refrigeration Devices Eat Rabbits. LARDER.
- anakaine 1y agoWe're going to need decrease load and off-shift the munchies so the fridge doesnt crash. Can we use a CDN? Comestible distribution network.
- JTbane 1y agosorry, us-west-1 went down for 6 hours and my milk spoiled
- Hackbraten 1y agoDefinitely has "Unauthorized Bread" vibes.
- lillecarl 1y agoHating on Kubernetes in 2025 doesn't really dong the gong like it used to, if you want to control your workloads through a well integrated API and not be bound to a cloud vendor there aren't many realistic options. Kubernetes is only hard because people make it hard and never bothered to understand the basics of their workload scheduler. Kubernetes is NOT AI hype, it solves real problems for real people everywhere. "Infrastructure projects" that are here to stay and only getting better: Linux, systemd, Postgres, Kubernetes etc...
- dr_dshiv 1y agoAnd Cornelis Drebbel invented the first thermostat and the first chemical air conditioning system in the early 1600s. Cybernetic alchemist.
- amelius 1y agoHuh, control theorists always try to rigorously prove the stability and performance of their algorithms. AI seems to be the opposite of that: just let the black box solve it and don't worry about any problems, we'll just add more training data if they happen!
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoYes! Let's spend 100x the resources on AI to do what a PID controller or Kalman filter can do.
- ethbr1 1y agoI’m less scared about 100x the resources (in most applications) in exchange for decreasing programmer time / need. What worries me far more is the lack of formalism around risk / boundary cases by undertrained teams using modern AI solutions. Anyone building on top of a thing should either understand (a) how it’s built in detail or (b) its specifications and behavior in detail. Most of these teams understand neither about LLMs.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago>Most of these teams understand neither about LLMs. That's where my 100x comes from, not from the dev effort but from the debugging of issues of an unknown black box.
- jameshart 1y agoIf you type ‘fuzzy logic’ in to google the autocomplete suggested search is ‘fuzzy logic rice cooker’. Control theory has been stealing ML terminology for a long time.
- ethbr1 1y ago:D Rice cooker marketing is weirdly synchronized on that. Speaking of, what does it actually mean? That the cooker isn’t using a timer? Do most of them run off weight + time + heat response logic?
- bee_rider 1y agoI firmly believe control theory folks didn’t invent LLMs only because the idea of doing a big fit on everything sounds too much like a joke they were telling each other.