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"(...) kids’ shorts with drawstrings longer than regulation length (...)" We really overrregulate things here in the EU. It was a great run, we've had access t

"(...) kids’ shorts with drawstrings longer than regulation length (...)" We really overrregulate things here in the EU. It was a great run, we've had access to great Chinese stuff for a while now. Maybe around 2007-ish the direct-to-consumer imports started. It has really helped me to acquire tools and eletrical components cheaply, where no other supplier was able to offer it at a good price or at all. Hopefuly the EU will fail to keep this in check so that the party can continue.

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arp242 1y ago
That quote does continue with "which cause a trip hazard". I have no idea what the trip hazard on that is, or how many children tripped on these types of strings. Do you? It seems to me that any opinion without this information is not an informed opinion. Additionally, pretty much all of the other examples seem far more serious. Quoting only that one bit is not a fair representation of the article on that account either. Additionally additionally, some corporations not following the regulations is just unfair competition. Not hard to be cheaper than everyone else if you decide to dump slop with toxic chemicals. That some of the regulations might be bad is somewhat besides the point here. There is a democratic process for changing them if you don't like them.
- edg5000 1y ago
  We all want safe products. Regulating products is a bit like the war on drugs. Drugs are bad, so you criminalize it. Seems logical, right? In reality, we have many case studies where this has actually worsened the situation, as it pushes the drugs into the underworld. This is how regulation can be counter-intuitive. I'm so cynical and passionate about this overregulation because I've had to deal with it myself in aviation and medical. When you read the regulations, everything makes sense. It basically says: "reduce risk". In reality, companies spend (in my experience) insane amounts of resources on paperwork to prove they are safe, which is completely detached from reality. It's a paper excercise. It's bureaucratic bloat that slipped in over the years. It seems to make sense at the surface, but actually is counterproductive. Why? Any sane business wants to minimize risks at all costs. Those who don't, will at best get a terrible reputation. There should be regulation of course, just no overregulation. It's like bloated code. There should be code of couse, just no needless abstractions as it just drags everything down. It's just that I'm seeing a pattern where we are cynical towards other countries and are simply too self-congratulating with our own regulatory situation. As a continent/union we're showing signs being a bad sport. Instead of saying how bad everybody else is, why not make good stuff ourselves instead? We can't compete because our energy is insanely expensive. Zoning and compliance get in the way of business. Lack of raw resource acquisition (we have to import raw materials). High taxes. Labour shortages, overly strong unions. All the ugly things we'd rather not talk about, the "boring" problems that have to be adresses one by one. We're inefficient and cannot compete on many things globally and have to rely on imports. That inefficiency needs to be adressed!
  - arp242 1y ago
    You have not actually answered the question. So still an uninformed opinion and you don't know if this is "over-regulation" or not if you don't know the facts. You can write endless paragraphs of ideology and cynicism to justify your uninformed opinion, but that does not change it's an uninformed opinion, and can be dismissed as such.
anthk 1y ago
I would buy a Chinese Thinkpad-like clone netbook with no issues from AliExpress, some of them are pretty neat. But I'd run away from a 99% of stuff sold at Temu and Shein.

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arp242 1y ago

That quote does continue with "which cause a trip hazard". I have no idea what the trip hazard on that is, or how many children tripped on these types of strings. Do you? It seems to me that any opinion without this information is not an informed opinion. Additionally, pretty much all of the other examples seem far more serious. Quoting only that one bit is not a fair representation of the article on that account either. Additionally additionally, some corporations not following the regulations is just unfair competition. Not hard to be cheaper than everyone else if you decide to dump slop with toxic chemicals. That some of the regulations might be bad is somewhat besides the point here. There is a democratic process for changing them if you don't like them.

edg5000 1y ago
We all want safe products. Regulating products is a bit like the war on drugs. Drugs are bad, so you criminalize it. Seems logical, right? In reality, we have many case studies where this has actually worsened the situation, as it pushes the drugs into the underworld. This is how regulation can be counter-intuitive. I'm so cynical and passionate about this overregulation because I've had to deal with it myself in aviation and medical. When you read the regulations, everything makes sense. It basically says: "reduce risk". In reality, companies spend (in my experience) insane amounts of resources on paperwork to prove they are safe, which is completely detached from reality. It's a paper excercise. It's bureaucratic bloat that slipped in over the years. It seems to make sense at the surface, but actually is counterproductive. Why? Any sane business wants to minimize risks at all costs. Those who don't, will at best get a terrible reputation. There should be regulation of course, just no overregulation. It's like bloated code. There should be code of couse, just no needless abstractions as it just drags everything down. It's just that I'm seeing a pattern where we are cynical towards other countries and are simply too self-congratulating with our own regulatory situation. As a continent/union we're showing signs being a bad sport. Instead of saying how bad everybody else is, why not make good stuff ourselves instead? We can't compete because our energy is insanely expensive. Zoning and compliance get in the way of business. Lack of raw resource acquisition (we have to import raw materials). High taxes. Labour shortages, overly strong unions. All the ugly things we'd rather not talk about, the "boring" problems that have to be adresses one by one. We're inefficient and cannot compete on many things globally and have to rely on imports. That inefficiency needs to be adressed!
- arp242 1y ago
  You have not actually answered the question. So still an uninformed opinion and you don't know if this is "over-regulation" or not if you don't know the facts. You can write endless paragraphs of ideology and cynicism to justify your uninformed opinion, but that does not change it's an uninformed opinion, and can be dismissed as such.

anthk 1y ago

I would buy a Chinese Thinkpad-like clone netbook with no issues from AliExpress, some of them are pretty neat. But I'd run away from a 99% of stuff sold at Temu and Shein.