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I also had an encounter with government software... I think the long-lasting solution will be to move to a web-based application system, instead of depending o

I also had an encounter with government software... I think the long-lasting solution will be to move to a web-based application system, instead of depending on Desktop applications made for Windows or Linux. Using a web app system, the government only has to concern itself with proper development and maintenance of servers and web apps, and the public workers can use any operating system with a web browser.

moritzwarhier 1y ago
I agree with this. When it comes to domain-specific b2b software, pretty much everything that doesn't require native resources or performance inaccessible from the web platform should provide a web-based frontend (even if just as a minimum).
- LargoLasskhyfv 1y ago
  And that would be better why exactly? Bloated browsers trying to phone home, even if only to search for updates, or denying access because of overblocking DNS, false software security signatures, whatever? Ja. Klasse! I fucking know about Electron & Tauri. And V8, Node, Bun, TS. Hmmm so geil. Da steht mir der Schwanz steil. Oder auch einfach nur die Haare zu Berge. Waldmeisterlicher Wackelpudding. Ahoi.
mananaysiempre 1y ago
> the public workers can use any operating system with a web browser With IE6^W Chrome, you mean. Nobody’s going to bother testing on anything else.
- johnisgood 1y ago
  I saw they use Linux and Firefox at our local hospital.
jimbob45 1y ago
Nothing says “long-lasting” like browser standards and front-end frameworks.
snickerbockers 1y ago
isn't TFA about how the problem is cloud-infrastructure? web-app will only make that worse unless you're thinking something like adobe air. Also, as others already noted, somehow the web is uniquely terrible at maintaining compatibility across not only different platforms but different versions of the same platform and even different versions of the same browser, despite being built largely on top of high-level languages that all claim to enable effortless portability.
vrighter 1y ago
ok, then they develop that system using dynamics 365 or some crap like that
tracker1 1y ago
Considering I'm working as a contractor for a local govt, working on a system that probably should be deployed to linux/containers, but I'm stuck on a locked down copy of windows with deployments going to Windows Servers. I can't even use WSL/Docker on my issued laptop. The transparent proxy for all http(s) requests has been fun for some cli tools as well.

moritzwarhier 1y ago

I agree with this. When it comes to domain-specific b2b software, pretty much everything that doesn't require native resources or performance inaccessible from the web platform should provide a web-based frontend (even if just as a minimum).

LargoLasskhyfv 1y ago
And that would be better why exactly? Bloated browsers trying to phone home, even if only to search for updates, or denying access because of overblocking DNS, false software security signatures, whatever? Ja. Klasse! I fucking know about Electron & Tauri. And V8, Node, Bun, TS. Hmmm so geil. Da steht mir der Schwanz steil. Oder auch einfach nur die Haare zu Berge. Waldmeisterlicher Wackelpudding. Ahoi.

mananaysiempre 1y ago

> the public workers can use any operating system with a web browser With IE6^W Chrome, you mean. Nobody’s going to bother testing on anything else.

johnisgood 1y ago
I saw they use Linux and Firefox at our local hospital.

jimbob45 1y ago

Nothing says “long-lasting” like browser standards and front-end frameworks.

snickerbockers 1y ago

isn't TFA about how the problem is cloud-infrastructure? web-app will only make that worse unless you're thinking something like adobe air. Also, as others already noted, somehow the web is uniquely terrible at maintaining compatibility across not only different platforms but different versions of the same platform and even different versions of the same browser, despite being built largely on top of high-level languages that all claim to enable effortless portability.

vrighter 1y ago

ok, then they develop that system using dynamics 365 or some crap like that

tracker1 1y ago

Considering I'm working as a contractor for a local govt, working on a system that probably should be deployed to linux/containers, but I'm stuck on a locked down copy of windows with deployments going to Windows Servers. I can't even use WSL/Docker on my issued laptop. The transparent proxy for all http(s) requests has been fun for some cli tools as well.