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Samsung readies their own Retina display laptop

25 points by 11031a 14y ago

r00fus 14y ago
For those who are looking forward to having a laptop display with a high raw pixel count (the MBPr can only be run at 1920x1200 IIRC without hacks) - I guess this is it, and it looks like it'll run Win8 too. Props to Samsung. Hope they don't call it a "cornea display" or something mocking.
- Zev 14y ago
  Its not really a hack to run rMBP's at > 1920x1200, just a cli tool. Apple doesn't expose it in the UI anymore, thats basically it.
  - deleted 14y ago
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- il 14y ago
  Windows 7 on the rMBP defaults to 2880×1800 resolution.
- cmelbye 14y ago
  rMBP can already quite easily be run at a high raw pixel count resolution (higher than this Samsung laptop in fact, as the article points out.) Obviously, it runs at this raw resolution by default when booted into Windows, so I'm not sure what your point is. As it turns out, it can run Windows 8 as well!
- eco 14y ago
  Shouldn't Microsoft be getting the props in this case? Samsung makes great displays (they make the MBPr display too) but the OS is the limiting factor in actually running them at the native resolution.
  - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
    The operating system has to be adapted for one, but the biggest problem would be the app developers: they have to make changes to their pixel assets to suit the new resolution. Apple has the same problem, they are just aggressive about pushing developers in the right direction. Its a classic chicken/egg problem, especially when considering PC diversity (its obvious where Apple is going, its not obvious where the Window hardware providers are going).
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nthitz 14y ago
I hope they aren't infringing on any patents this time!
- powertower 14y ago
  Rounded Corners: ✔ Rectangular Screen: ✔ Black Bezel: ✔ ---------------------- Prior Art: (does not apply) ---------------------- Infringement: ✔ (*it's not the rounder-corners that gets you, it's the combination of that with the additional "dress")
  - taligent 14y ago
    Really ? I expected the incredibly dumb "Apple patented round corners" meme from somewhere like Engadget not HN.
    - herval 14y ago
      It's getting pretty prevalent here too, unfortunately...
    - sukuriant 14y ago
      The fun part only happens if they get in trouble for those specific attributes. That honestly wouldn't surprise me.
    - THE_PUN_STOPS 14y ago
      What can you do. In a court case as convoluted as Samsung V. Apple, you just have to expect these kinds of things to rub off on the populace. If the user doesn't understand the case itself, they're going to go off with their gut on whatever bias they pick up from external news sources, which means more and more people will inevitably perpetuate the "apple patented pinching and rectangles" meme. Hacker News isn't impregnable.
benologist 14y ago
Geek.com rewrite of an engadget.com rewrite about a YouTube video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYlnhDfvlo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYlnhDfvlo The submitter looks less than legitimate as well.
- sp332 14y ago
  What looks "less than legitimate" about the account? It's been around for over a year.
  - benologist 14y ago
    During its 400 days it's made a staggering 4 comments 1 of which was on its own submission. It almost exclusively submits geek.com and extremetech.com both of which are Ziff Davis properties and they are not at all shy about targeting and spamming HN - ExtremeTech have at least one employee that spams here [1] and had at least one puppet auto-submitting stories [2], and then there's the mysterious and probably automated 'help' from evo_9 [3] and ukdm [4] who have very long histories of heavily submitting these two sites. Finally we have adeelarshad82 [5] who exclusively submits Ziff Davis properties (PCMag.com is one too). [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=mrsebastian http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=mrsebastian [2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4441016 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4441016 [3] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=evo_9 http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=evo_9 [4] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=ukdm http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=ukdm [5] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adeelarshad82 http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adeelarshad82
    - benologist 14y ago
      That last dude is an undisclosed social media 'marketing' clown for ... Ziff Davis: http://www.linkedin.com/in/adeelarshad82 http://www.linkedin.com/in/adeelarshad82
aretiste 14y ago
Sell it as a portable display not a laptop. Give it connectivity via a variety of connectors (not just HDMI). It would be far more useful than an iPad. Keep dreaming, right?
- mmx 14y ago
  Although I might not agree with the iPad comparison, that's a really great idea I'd buy into.
- stock_toaster 14y ago
  I would love a high resolution 13" or 15" external (secondary) display for my laptop.
liquidcool 14y ago
Anyone know what the color gamut is on this? Matte and high res are great, but color gamut is make or break for me. It seems Retina is at 99%, which is really impressive for a laptop.
- drewyeaton 14y ago
  AFAIK gamut can not be represented as a percentage. Where are you getting that info?
  - liquidcool 14y ago
    Really? I've always seen it as a percentage of colors that can be displayed (sRGB). Of course, a graph would be better, but according to Dell, my U2410 has 110% color gamut and it looks pretty amazing to me. As for the Retina, I may have to take that back. First article claims the Retina has 99% vs. 71% for the previous generation: http://cdtobie.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/color-gamut-of-retina-display-macbook-pro/ http://cdtobie.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/color-gamut-of-retin... But Anandtech says it got worse (67%): http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/5 http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-w... I'm assuming calibration has something to do with it, or somebody tested it incorrectly or with inferior equipment.
cultureulterior 14y ago
As I've decided not to buy another apple laptop, I welcome this news.

25 points by 11031a 14y ago

For those who are looking forward to having a laptop display with a high raw pixel count (the MBPr can only be run at 1920x1200 IIRC without hacks) - I guess this is it, and it looks like it'll run Win8 too. Props to Samsung. Hope they don't call it a "cornea display" or something mocking.

Zev 14y ago
Its not really a hack to run rMBP's at > 1920x1200, just a cli tool. Apple doesn't expose it in the UI anymore, thats basically it.
- deleted 14y ago
  [deleted]
il 14y ago
Windows 7 on the rMBP defaults to 2880×1800 resolution.
cmelbye 14y ago
rMBP can already quite easily be run at a high raw pixel count resolution (higher than this Samsung laptop in fact, as the article points out.) Obviously, it runs at this raw resolution by default when booted into Windows, so I'm not sure what your point is. As it turns out, it can run Windows 8 as well!
eco 14y ago
Shouldn't Microsoft be getting the props in this case? Samsung makes great displays (they make the MBPr display too) but the OS is the limiting factor in actually running them at the native resolution.
- seanmcdirmid 14y ago
  The operating system has to be adapted for one, but the biggest problem would be the app developers: they have to make changes to their pixel assets to suit the new resolution. Apple has the same problem, they are just aggressive about pushing developers in the right direction. Its a classic chicken/egg problem, especially when considering PC diversity (its obvious where Apple is going, its not obvious where the Window hardware providers are going).
- deleted 14y ago
  [deleted]

nthitz 14y ago

I hope they aren't infringing on any patents this time!

powertower 14y ago
Rounded Corners: ✔ Rectangular Screen: ✔ Black Bezel: ✔ ---------------------- Prior Art: (does not apply) ---------------------- Infringement: ✔ (*it's not the rounder-corners that gets you, it's the combination of that with the additional "dress")
- taligent 14y ago
  Really ? I expected the incredibly dumb "Apple patented round corners" meme from somewhere like Engadget not HN.
  - herval 14y ago
    It's getting pretty prevalent here too, unfortunately...
  - sukuriant 14y ago
    The fun part only happens if they get in trouble for those specific attributes. That honestly wouldn't surprise me.
  - THE_PUN_STOPS 14y ago
    What can you do. In a court case as convoluted as Samsung V. Apple, you just have to expect these kinds of things to rub off on the populace. If the user doesn't understand the case itself, they're going to go off with their gut on whatever bias they pick up from external news sources, which means more and more people will inevitably perpetuate the "apple patented pinching and rectangles" meme. Hacker News isn't impregnable.

benologist 14y ago

Geek.com rewrite of an engadget.com rewrite about a YouTube video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYlnhDfvlo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYlnhDfvlo The submitter looks less than legitimate as well.

sp332 14y ago
What looks "less than legitimate" about the account? It's been around for over a year.
- benologist 14y ago
  During its 400 days it's made a staggering 4 comments 1 of which was on its own submission. It almost exclusively submits geek.com and extremetech.com both of which are Ziff Davis properties and they are not at all shy about targeting and spamming HN - ExtremeTech have at least one employee that spams here [1] and had at least one puppet auto-submitting stories [2], and then there's the mysterious and probably automated 'help' from evo_9 [3] and ukdm [4] who have very long histories of heavily submitting these two sites. Finally we have adeelarshad82 [5] who exclusively submits Ziff Davis properties (PCMag.com is one too). [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=mrsebastian http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=mrsebastian [2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4441016 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4441016 [3] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=evo_9 http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=evo_9 [4] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=ukdm http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=ukdm [5] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adeelarshad82 http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adeelarshad82
  - benologist 14y ago
    That last dude is an undisclosed social media 'marketing' clown for ... Ziff Davis: http://www.linkedin.com/in/adeelarshad82 http://www.linkedin.com/in/adeelarshad82

aretiste 14y ago

Sell it as a portable display not a laptop. Give it connectivity via a variety of connectors (not just HDMI). It would be far more useful than an iPad. Keep dreaming, right?

mmx 14y ago
Although I might not agree with the iPad comparison, that's a really great idea I'd buy into.
stock_toaster 14y ago
I would love a high resolution 13" or 15" external (secondary) display for my laptop.

liquidcool 14y ago

Anyone know what the color gamut is on this? Matte and high res are great, but color gamut is make or break for me. It seems Retina is at 99%, which is really impressive for a laptop.

drewyeaton 14y ago
AFAIK gamut can not be represented as a percentage. Where are you getting that info?
- liquidcool 14y ago
  Really? I've always seen it as a percentage of colors that can be displayed (sRGB). Of course, a graph would be better, but according to Dell, my U2410 has 110% color gamut and it looks pretty amazing to me. As for the Retina, I may have to take that back. First article claims the Retina has 99% vs. 71% for the previous generation: http://cdtobie.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/color-gamut-of-retina-display-macbook-pro/ http://cdtobie.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/color-gamut-of-retin... But Anandtech says it got worse (67%): http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/5 http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-w... I'm assuming calibration has something to do with it, or somebody tested it incorrectly or with inferior equipment.

cultureulterior 14y ago

As I've decided not to buy another apple laptop, I welcome this news.