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When I buy an iPhone I am dealing with Apple. I know what I am buying and what I can or cannot do with the device. And if I am not happy there are alternatives.
by kergonath 1y ago
When I buy an iPhone I am dealing with Apple. I know what I am buying and what I can or cannot do with the device. And if I am not happy there are alternatives.
When I buy stuff on Steam I am in no way making a contract with Visa. When Visa strong arms Valve to delist games I lose even if I never had any relation with Visa ever.
It really is not comparable.
- amelius 1y agoFollowing your argument ... then don't choose Steam, there are plenty of alternatives! /s https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Traitorous-Critic-Fallacy https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Traitor...
- kergonath 1y agoNo, you misread. I have a commercial relation with Steam and I am happy for them to chose what game they sell and what game they don’t (and as a matter of fact I buy more games on gog than on Steam). I don’t have a relation with Visa and I object to them exercising any control over what I can or cannot buy.
- amelius 1y agoWhen I buy an Apple phone, it is my phone and Apple should not be able to exercise any control over who I do business with on said phone. However, I get the eerie feeling that I didn't buy a product even though I paid for it and I subscribed to some service instead.
- kergonath 1y agoAgain, that is not the point I am making. I am not even necessarily disagreeing with you on that point. I am merely pointing out that I am perfectly able to make a rational compromise and that it does not mean that I accept a random company interfering with my life. If you have something to say on that, fine. Otherwise, what is the point?
- Ferret7446 1y agoThere aren't, because all of them have no choice but to use Visa, Mastercard, etc. The monopoly isn't Steam, it's Visa et al.