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They tried to do the same to OnlyFans, but lost that battle

terminalshort 1y ago
Onlyfans actually made financial sense, though, because chargeback rates are very high. This move makes no financial sense at all.
- qingcharles 1y ago
  This is absolutely not true. OF's chargeback rates are incredibly low. Vastly lower than, say, Amazon. I have this directly from friends who work in this space. Do you have a citation that shows otherwise?
morkalork 1y ago
Didn't onlyfans severely limit the type of content creators could make and distribute through the platform, just like valve here?
- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  > Didn't onlyfans severely limit the type of content creators could make and distribute through the platform, just like valve here? Well, this coverage identifies two restrictions that Valve is enforcing: (1) No video footage of humans. Animation only. (2) No incest. Onlyfans clearly hasn't implemented restriction (1). If they've implemented (2), that seems like much less of a problem as applied to onlyfans than to animated content on Steam. But even in the case of Steam, there just isn't a constituency for being pro-incest. This is the last political fight you'd want to get into.
  - aleph_minus_one 1y ago
    > But even in the case of Steam, there just isn't a constituency for being pro-incest. This is the last political fight you'd want to get into. Of course the constituency that is openly pro-incest is small. On the other hand, I believe the constituency for a quite encompassing freedom of speech has to be taken seriously.
    - mango7283 1y ago
      I think the matter here is the activists are being strategic now and chipping away by targeting very specific content to get delisted. As you rightly said, most people are not going to sign their name to defend a incest/non-con fringe game specifically, so the counter petition is necessarily going to be on a broad ideal and therefore diffuse
      - LorenPechtel 1y ago
        Yeah. I find sex games have basically zero appeal to me, period. But either show me the victim or leave them legal.
  - rockskon 1y ago
    ? Claiming you need to be pro-incest to support the existance of incest themed video games is as absurd as claiming you need to be pro-murder to support much of the entire Action movie genre.
- wtfwhateven 1y ago
  Yep. Even showing lactation gets you banned now.
  - barbazoo 1y ago
    Any animal or just human?
    - wtfwhateven 1y ago
      I would hope using animals in OF content is illegal and banned anyway I was talking about human lactation. OF was forced to ban it because these same groups perceived it as "obscene" which is truly nonsensical
      - barbazoo 1y ago
        So as a farmer I wouldn’t be allowed to be on OF showing how to milk a cow?
        wtfwhateven 1y ago
        Haha, dunno, someone will have to find out
  - tempaccount420 1y ago
    That's a weird thing to ban.
- qingcharles 1y ago
  Yes, recently they put in place a ban on fursuits and other animal-wear since the payment processors determined that it would promote bestiality. I am not joking.

Onlyfans actually made financial sense, though, because chargeback rates are very high. This move makes no financial sense at all.

qingcharles 1y ago
This is absolutely not true. OF's chargeback rates are incredibly low. Vastly lower than, say, Amazon. I have this directly from friends who work in this space. Do you have a citation that shows otherwise?

morkalork 1y ago

Didn't onlyfans severely limit the type of content creators could make and distribute through the platform, just like valve here?

thaumasiotes 1y ago
> Didn't onlyfans severely limit the type of content creators could make and distribute through the platform, just like valve here? Well, this coverage identifies two restrictions that Valve is enforcing: (1) No video footage of humans. Animation only. (2) No incest. Onlyfans clearly hasn't implemented restriction (1). If they've implemented (2), that seems like much less of a problem as applied to onlyfans than to animated content on Steam. But even in the case of Steam, there just isn't a constituency for being pro-incest. This is the last political fight you'd want to get into.
- aleph_minus_one 1y ago
  > But even in the case of Steam, there just isn't a constituency for being pro-incest. This is the last political fight you'd want to get into. Of course the constituency that is openly pro-incest is small. On the other hand, I believe the constituency for a quite encompassing freedom of speech has to be taken seriously.
  - mango7283 1y ago
    I think the matter here is the activists are being strategic now and chipping away by targeting very specific content to get delisted. As you rightly said, most people are not going to sign their name to defend a incest/non-con fringe game specifically, so the counter petition is necessarily going to be on a broad ideal and therefore diffuse
    - LorenPechtel 1y ago
      Yeah. I find sex games have basically zero appeal to me, period. But either show me the victim or leave them legal.
- rockskon 1y ago
  ? Claiming you need to be pro-incest to support the existance of incest themed video games is as absurd as claiming you need to be pro-murder to support much of the entire Action movie genre.
wtfwhateven 1y ago
Yep. Even showing lactation gets you banned now.
- barbazoo 1y ago
  Any animal or just human?
  - wtfwhateven 1y ago
    I would hope using animals in OF content is illegal and banned anyway I was talking about human lactation. OF was forced to ban it because these same groups perceived it as "obscene" which is truly nonsensical
    - barbazoo 1y ago
      So as a farmer I wouldn’t be allowed to be on OF showing how to milk a cow?
      - wtfwhateven 1y ago
        Haha, dunno, someone will have to find out
- tempaccount420 1y ago
  That's a weird thing to ban.
qingcharles 1y ago
Yes, recently they put in place a ban on fursuits and other animal-wear since the payment processors determined that it would promote bestiality. I am not joking.