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Everything in this thread even remotely anti-EU-regulation is being extreme downvoted

rockemsockem 1y ago
Yeah it's kinda weird. Feels like I need to go find a tech site full of people who actually like tech instead of hating it.
- blibble 1y ago
  I like tech I don't like meta or anything it has done, or stands for
  - rockemsockem 1y ago
    See that's crazy though. You don't like open source ML (including or not including LLMs, depending on how you feel about them) You don't like React? You don't like PyTorch? Like a lot of really smart and really dedicated people work on pretty cool stuff at Meta. You don't have to like Facebook, Instagram, etc to see that.
    - cultureswitch 1y ago
      To be fair, anyone who genuinely likes React is probably insane? Plenty of great projects are developed by people working at Meta. Doesn't change the fact that the company as a whole should be split in at least 6 parts, and at least two thirds of these parts should be regulated to death. And when it comes to activities that do not improve anyone's life such as advertisement and data collection, I do mean literally regulated into bankruptcy.
      - rockemsockem 1y ago
        Lol, I try to do as little frontend as possible anyway, seems like React is better than many alternatives though? The comment I responded to said Meta didn't do anything good, which is obviously affecting their opinion on whether Meta opposing European AI regulation can possibly be good. Certainly there's a lot of not great stuff Meta does.
- OtomotO 1y ago
  I like tech, but I despise cults
- asats 1y ago
  Don't know if I'm biased but it seems there has been a slow but consistent and accelerating redditification of hacker news.
  - rockemsockem 1y ago
    Yeah I think that's part of it. Probably partly because reddit somehow seems to have become even worse over the last several years. So there are probably more people fleeing
  - randomNumber7 1y ago
    It's the AI hype and the people who think they are hackers because they can ask a LLM to write code.
    - rockemsockem 1y ago
      Idk I feel like there are a lot of non-technical people who work in tech here now.
- j_maffe 1y ago
  Tech and techies don't like to be monopolized
- trinsic2 1y ago
  No we like tech that works for the people/public, not against them. I know its a crazy idea.
- wswope 1y ago
  Your opinions aren't the problem, and tech isn't the problem. It's entirely your bad-faith strawman arguments and trolling. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44609135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44609135 That feeling is correct: this site is better without you. Please put your money where your mouth is and leave.
  - rockemsockem 1y ago
    I think your command of the English language might be your issue
- guelo 1y ago
  If you don't hate big tech you haven't paying attention. Enshittification became a popular word for a reason.
- troupo 1y ago
  As others have pointed out, we like tech. We don't like what trillion-dollar supranational corporations and infinite VC money are doing with tech. Hating things like "We're saving your precise movements and location for 10+ years" and "we're using AI to predict how much you can be charged for stuff" is not hating technology
vicnov 1y ago
It is fascinating. I assume that the tech world is further to the left, and that interpretation of "left" is very pro-AI regulation.
impossiblefork 1y ago
The regulations are pretty reasonable though.
gnulinux996 1y ago
Are you suggesting something here?

Yeah it's kinda weird. Feels like I need to go find a tech site full of people who actually like tech instead of hating it.

blibble 1y ago
I like tech I don't like meta or anything it has done, or stands for
- rockemsockem 1y ago
  See that's crazy though. You don't like open source ML (including or not including LLMs, depending on how you feel about them) You don't like React? You don't like PyTorch? Like a lot of really smart and really dedicated people work on pretty cool stuff at Meta. You don't have to like Facebook, Instagram, etc to see that.
  - cultureswitch 1y ago
    To be fair, anyone who genuinely likes React is probably insane? Plenty of great projects are developed by people working at Meta. Doesn't change the fact that the company as a whole should be split in at least 6 parts, and at least two thirds of these parts should be regulated to death. And when it comes to activities that do not improve anyone's life such as advertisement and data collection, I do mean literally regulated into bankruptcy.
    - rockemsockem 1y ago
      Lol, I try to do as little frontend as possible anyway, seems like React is better than many alternatives though? The comment I responded to said Meta didn't do anything good, which is obviously affecting their opinion on whether Meta opposing European AI regulation can possibly be good. Certainly there's a lot of not great stuff Meta does.
OtomotO 1y ago
I like tech, but I despise cults
asats 1y ago
Don't know if I'm biased but it seems there has been a slow but consistent and accelerating redditification of hacker news.
- rockemsockem 1y ago
  Yeah I think that's part of it. Probably partly because reddit somehow seems to have become even worse over the last several years. So there are probably more people fleeing
- randomNumber7 1y ago
  It's the AI hype and the people who think they are hackers because they can ask a LLM to write code.
  - rockemsockem 1y ago
    Idk I feel like there are a lot of non-technical people who work in tech here now.
j_maffe 1y ago
Tech and techies don't like to be monopolized
trinsic2 1y ago
No we like tech that works for the people/public, not against them. I know its a crazy idea.
wswope 1y ago
Your opinions aren't the problem, and tech isn't the problem. It's entirely your bad-faith strawman arguments and trolling. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44609135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44609135 That feeling is correct: this site is better without you. Please put your money where your mouth is and leave.
- rockemsockem 1y ago
  I think your command of the English language might be your issue
guelo 1y ago
If you don't hate big tech you haven't paying attention. Enshittification became a popular word for a reason.
troupo 1y ago
As others have pointed out, we like tech. We don't like what trillion-dollar supranational corporations and infinite VC money are doing with tech. Hating things like "We're saving your precise movements and location for 10+ years" and "we're using AI to predict how much you can be charged for stuff" is not hating technology

vicnov 1y ago

It is fascinating. I assume that the tech world is further to the left, and that interpretation of "left" is very pro-AI regulation.

impossiblefork 1y ago

The regulations are pretty reasonable though.

gnulinux996 1y ago

Are you suggesting something here?