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There’s a summary of the guidelines here for anyone who is wondering: https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/introduction-to-code-of-practice/ https://artificial

There’s a summary of the guidelines here for anyone who is wondering: https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/introduction-to-code-of-practice/ https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/introduction-to-code-of... It’s certainly onerous. I don’t see how it helps anyone except for big copyright holders, lawyers and bureaucrats.

cm2012 1y ago
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- Atotalnoob 1y ago
  This all seems fine. Most of these items should be implemented by major providers…
  - techjamie 1y ago
    The problem is this severely harms the ability to release opens weights models, and only leaves the average person with options that aren't good for privacy.
- isoprophlex 1y ago
  I don't care about your overly verbose, blandly written slop. If I wanted a llm summary, I would ask an llm myself. This really is the 2025 equivalent to posting links to a google result page, imo.
  - rokkamokka 1y ago
    It is... helpful though. More so than your reply
    - isoprophlex 1y ago
      Touché, I'll grant you that.
  - marcellus23 1y ago
    More verbose than the source text? And who cares about bland writing when you're summarizing a legal text?
  - JonChesterfield 1y ago
    Nope. This text is embedded in HN and will survive rather better than the prompt or the search result, both of which are non-reproducible. It may bear no relation to reality but at least it won't abruptly disappear.
    - jjulius 1y ago
      Unless, ya know, it gets marked as Flagged/Dead.
      - JonChesterfield 1y ago
        Huh. Well, yes, it has indeed now been deleted. I guess that's the end of that line of thinking then.
        cm2012 1y ago
        I dont think my original post deserved to be flagged but I suspect it was auto enforcement.
felipeerias 1y ago
These regulations may end up creating a trap for European companies. Essentially, the goal is to establish a series of thresholds that result in significantly more complex and onerous compliance requirements, for example when a model is trained past a certain scale. Burgeoning EU companies would be reluctant to cross any one of those thresholds and have to deal with sharply increased regulatory risks. On the other hand, large corporations in the US or China are currently benefiting from a Darwinian ecosystem at home that allows them to evolve their frontier models at breakneck speed. Those non-EU companies will then be able to enter the EU market with far more polished AI-based products and far deeper pockets to face any regulations.
- Workaccount2 1y ago
  And then they'll get fined a few billion anyway to cover the gap for no European tech to tax.
  - izacus 1y ago
    As an European, this sounds like an excellent solution. US megatech funding our public infrastructure? Amazing. Especially after US attacked us with tarrifs.
    - Workaccount2 1y ago
      Just like Russian mega-energy powering your grid? Bad idea. Europe is digging a hole of a combination of suffocating regulation and dependance on foreign players. It's so dumb, but Europeans are so used to it they can't see the problem.
- randomNumber7 1y ago
  Also EU Users will try to use the better AI products with e.g. a VPN to the US.
  - aniviacat 1y ago
    Most won't. Remember that this is an issue almost noone (outside a certain bubble) is aware of.
troupo 1y ago
> It’s certainly onerous. What exactly is onerous about it?
l5870uoo9y 1y ago
It's basically micromanaging an industry that European countries have not been able to cultivate themselves. It's legislation for legislation's sake. If you had a naive hope that Mario Draghi's gloomy report on the EU's competitiveness would pave the way for a political breakthrough in the EU - one is tempted to say something along the lines of communist China's market reforms in the 70s - then you have to conclude that the EU is continuing in exactly the same direction. I have actually lost faith in the EU.

cm2012 1y ago

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Atotalnoob 1y ago
This all seems fine. Most of these items should be implemented by major providers…
- techjamie 1y ago
  The problem is this severely harms the ability to release opens weights models, and only leaves the average person with options that aren't good for privacy.
isoprophlex 1y ago
I don't care about your overly verbose, blandly written slop. If I wanted a llm summary, I would ask an llm myself. This really is the 2025 equivalent to posting links to a google result page, imo.
- rokkamokka 1y ago
  It is... helpful though. More so than your reply
  - isoprophlex 1y ago
    Touché, I'll grant you that.
- marcellus23 1y ago
  More verbose than the source text? And who cares about bland writing when you're summarizing a legal text?
- JonChesterfield 1y ago
  Nope. This text is embedded in HN and will survive rather better than the prompt or the search result, both of which are non-reproducible. It may bear no relation to reality but at least it won't abruptly disappear.
  - jjulius 1y ago
    Unless, ya know, it gets marked as Flagged/Dead.
    - JonChesterfield 1y ago
      Huh. Well, yes, it has indeed now been deleted. I guess that's the end of that line of thinking then.
      - cm2012 1y ago
        I dont think my original post deserved to be flagged but I suspect it was auto enforcement.

felipeerias 1y ago

These regulations may end up creating a trap for European companies. Essentially, the goal is to establish a series of thresholds that result in significantly more complex and onerous compliance requirements, for example when a model is trained past a certain scale. Burgeoning EU companies would be reluctant to cross any one of those thresholds and have to deal with sharply increased regulatory risks. On the other hand, large corporations in the US or China are currently benefiting from a Darwinian ecosystem at home that allows them to evolve their frontier models at breakneck speed. Those non-EU companies will then be able to enter the EU market with far more polished AI-based products and far deeper pockets to face any regulations.

Workaccount2 1y ago
And then they'll get fined a few billion anyway to cover the gap for no European tech to tax.
- izacus 1y ago
  As an European, this sounds like an excellent solution. US megatech funding our public infrastructure? Amazing. Especially after US attacked us with tarrifs.
  - Workaccount2 1y ago
    Just like Russian mega-energy powering your grid? Bad idea. Europe is digging a hole of a combination of suffocating regulation and dependance on foreign players. It's so dumb, but Europeans are so used to it they can't see the problem.
randomNumber7 1y ago
Also EU Users will try to use the better AI products with e.g. a VPN to the US.
- aniviacat 1y ago
  Most won't. Remember that this is an issue almost noone (outside a certain bubble) is aware of.

troupo 1y ago

> It’s certainly onerous. What exactly is onerous about it?

l5870uoo9y 1y ago

It's basically micromanaging an industry that European countries have not been able to cultivate themselves. It's legislation for legislation's sake. If you had a naive hope that Mario Draghi's gloomy report on the EU's competitiveness would pave the way for a political breakthrough in the EU - one is tempted to say something along the lines of communist China's market reforms in the 70s - then you have to conclude that the EU is continuing in exactly the same direction. I have actually lost faith in the EU.