> The people that are happy with it and praising the avenues offered by LLM/AI solutions are creating codebases that fulfill their requirements, whatever those

> The people that are happy with it and praising the avenues offered by LLM/AI solutions are creating codebases that fulfill their requirements, whatever those might be. Ah, but "whatever those might be" is the crucial bit. I don't entirely disagree with what you're saying. There will always be a segment of power users who are able to leverage their knowledge about these tools to extract more value out of them than people who don't use them to their full potential. That is true for any tool, not just in software. What you're ignoring are two other possibilities: 1. The expectation of users can be wildly different. Someone who has never programmed before, but can now create and ship a smartphone app, will see these tools as magical. Whatever issues they have will either go unnoticed, or won't matter considering the big picture. Surely their impression of AI tooling will be nothing short of positive. They might be experts at using LLMs, but not at programming. OTOH, someone who has been programming for decades, and strives for a certain level of quality in their work, will find the experience much different. They will be able to see the flaws and limitations of these tools, and addressing them will take time and effort that they could've better spent elsewhere. As we've known since the introduction of LLMs, domain experts are the only ones who can experience these problems. So the experience of both sides is valid, and should have equal weight in conversations. Unlike you, I do trust the opinion of domain experts over those of user experts, but that's a personal bias. 2. There are actual flaws and limitations in AI tooling. The assumption that all negative experiences are from users who are "holding it wrong", while all positive ones are from expert users, is wrong. It steers the conversation away from issues with the tech that should be discussed and addressed. And considering the industry is strongly propelled by hype and marketing right now, we need conversations grounded in reality to push back against it.